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Would You Join A Black Intelligence Agency?

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    Only if there was enough budget to have a private investigator following every single member and the discipline to meet and disclose business in a single room ONLY. In that room there will be no electronics allowed. If you bring one in we’ll have to take one of your fingers.
     
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    A group dedicated to gathering information and dealing with off code behavior in the Black Community holding those accountable who would do harm to our community....
    This is the next step. ✊🏿
    Sounds just like THE DROP SQUAD! ✊🏽
     

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    Another point is that it can only be effective if the operators within it truly lived by the code us the leader. It can’t be any of the fake half-assed “the code Is leader as long as the code agrees with what I want to do right now”.
     

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    A group dedicated to gathering information and dealing with off code behavior in the Black Community holding those accountable who would do harm to our community....
    This is the next step. ✊🏿
    Good Idea... as long as the agency is extremely careful about screening the members...
     

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    Only if there was enough budget to have a private investigator following every single member and the discipline to meet and disclose business in a single room ONLY. In that room there will be no electronics allowed. If you bring one in we’ll have to take one of your fingers.
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    Absolutely! I was listening to Dr Randy Short last night on Afro Elites live and he was goin in on how the NAACP have consistently took anti black stances and how we could dismantle them. Whether you agree with that or not, it brings up a big flaw in FBA culture in that we are too supportive of each other, we turned a blind eye to the NAACPs inaction for too long, Sharpton, now Crump. Garvey blindly trusted agent 800, King wanted war hadn’t the movement been co-opted towards pacifism and a heavily watered down civil rights bill.

    Best believe someone in the reparations movement is co-opted, and no I don’t think it’s Tariq nor any one these internet personalities. But my thoughts on the diversion would hit close to heart for many and would be met rashly with shun. It’s not something I’m completely against but I’d rather dissect it in private with pragmatic individuals before delivering it publicly.
     

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    Absolutely! I was listening to Dr Randy Short last night on Afro Elites live and he was goin in on how the NAACP have consistently took anti black stances and how we could dismantle them. Whether you agree with that or not, it brings up a big flaw in FBA culture in that we are too supportive of each other, we turned a blind eye to the NAACPs inaction for too long, Sharpton, now Crump. Garvey blindly trusted agent 800, King wanted war hadn’t the movement been co-opted towards pacifism and a heavily watered down civil rights bill.

    Best believe someone in the reparations movement is co-opted, and no I don’t think it’s Tariq nor any one these internet personalities. But my thoughts on the diversion would hit close to heart for many and would be met rashly with shun. It’s not something I’m completely against but I’d rather dissect it in private with pragmatic individuals before delivering it publicly.
    Do you believe it is POSSIBLE that any Internet personality COULD be an agent?
     

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    If I ever make an organization outside of 6ZEROS that has a more specific focus e.g. Intel Service it will be like a professional Death Row Records. Consequences would be dealt but it wouldn't be because some dumb idiot was drunk and decided to punish someone. It would be fair and there would be a committee that would examine the person's actions and then determine if punishment was necessary.

    In addition, I would make everyone sign paperwork that states that they have no right to privacy while working with or within the organization. Everyone's background will be checked throughly and routinely and I mean thoroughly. There will never be a requisite number of good deeds that can put you above investigation or out of the eye of suspicion.

    No family, no friends, all business.
     

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    The power to hold people accountable goes a long way to getting stuff done......that's one of the reasons we run into so many roadblocks because we can't hold those accountable for blocking our progress or killing one of us we'd be surprised how many people have been dealt with in this society for NOT going along with the program including our own Icons and even president's....who we know about but there's hundreds that we don't know about. We definitely need to have the power of accountability or people would just run to white law enforcement.
     

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    The power to hold people accountable goes a long way to getting stuff done......that's one of the reasons we run into so many roadblocks because we can't hold those accountable for blocking our progress or killing one of us we'd be surprised how many people have been dealt with in this society for NOT going along with the program including our own Icons and even president's....who we know about but there's hundreds that we don't know about. We definitely need to have the power of accountability or people would just run to white law enforcement.
    Amen. That's why it needs to be ran like other shadow orgs have been ran. It has to be extremely difficult to cross the line from associate to member. It needs to be so rigid that if we trace you back and there is a name change, some type of concealed court case, or a case where everyone got football numbers but you...you're immediately no longer viable. We would need to interview you at your home, meet your friends and family and get to really know you. It would have to be very very thorough.

    In addition, information needs to be compartmentalized so that no single person knows everything. Nothing could be communicated over electronic devices. Also there would need to be a legitimate commerce motion within the organization to fund it and give the members the ability to earn a living within the the org. It may seem like a lot but anything else will easily be penetrated.
     

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    Amen. That's why it needs to be ran like other shadow orgs have been ran. It has to be extremely difficult to cross the line from associate to member. It needs to be so rigid that if we trace you back and there is a name change, some type of concealed court case, or a case where everyone got football numbers but you...you're immediately no longer viable. We would need to interview you at your home, meet your friends and family and get to really know you. It would have to be very very thorough.

    In addition, information needs to be compartmentalized so that no single person knows everything. Nothing could be communicated over electronic devices. Also there would need to be a legitimate commerce motion within the organization to fund it and give the members the ability to earn a living within the the org. It may seem like a lot but anything else will easily be penetrated.
    Maybe a "Black Tax" could fund it.....?
     

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    Do you believe it is POSSIBLE that any Internet personality COULD be an agent?
    I misspoke, I definitely think some Internet personalities are agents. When I said it’s not Tariq or any Internet personality that was concerning who I specifically think is an agent, and that person isn’t an Internet personality.
     

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    I misspoke, I definitely think some Internet personalities are agents. When I said it’s not Tariq or any Internet personality that was concerning who I specifically think is an agent, and that person isn’t an Internet personality.
    I wanted to see if you had the disposition to question everyone. We don’t truly know who is or isn’t an agent because we do not have the intelligence apparatus partaking in the research.
     

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    Absolutely! I was listening to Dr Randy Short last night on Afro Elites live and he was goin in on how the NAACP have consistently took anti black stances and how we could dismantle them. Whether you agree with that or not, it brings up a big flaw in FBA culture in that we are too supportive of each other, we turned a blind eye to the NAACPs inaction for too long, Sharpton, now Crump. Garvey blindly trusted agent 800, King wanted war hadn’t the movement been co-opted towards pacifism and a heavily watered down civil rights bill.

    Best believe someone in the reparations movement is co-opted, and no I don’t think it’s Tariq nor any one these internet personalities. But my thoughts on the diversion would hit close to heart for many and would be met rashly with shun. It’s not something I’m completely against but I’d rather dissect it in private with pragmatic individuals before delivering it publicly.
    Who's agent 800?
     

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    Maybe a "Black Tax" could fund it.....?
    Possibly or producing a product that Black America would support. For instance how the Nation of Islam sells bean pies and Final Calls, something like that relevant to younger Black people.

    The funds can be collected nationally and 501c3s can be used to get the money out to the local arms. I’m saying too much now.

    Mtv Nyc GIF by Paramount+
     

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    A Black intelligence agency program is exactly what we need. I've bought a few books on various intelligence agencies and how they operate along with watching some documentaries on the topic as well as researching the techniques that they have used in many different operations. We need to start studying intelligence gathering. I purchased the book that Prof. BlackTruth recommended not too long ago called 'Gideon's Spies' by Gordon Thomas which is based on the origins and activities of The Mossad organisation. Establishing our own intelligence gathering groups would make a big change in how we move as a people, especially if we work together to always uphold logic over our emotions; then we can do anything.
    Gideon's spies good read!
    A Black intelligence agency program is exactly what we need. I've bought a few books on various intelligence agencies and how they operate along with watching some documentaries on the topic as well as researching the techniques that they have used in many different operations. We need to start studying intelligence gathering. I purchased the book that Prof. BlackTruth recommended not too long ago called 'Gideon's Spies' by Gordon Thomas which is based on the origins and activities of The Mossad organisation. Establishing our own intelligence gathering groups would make a big change in how we move as a people, especially if we work together to always uphold logic over our emotions; then we can do anything.
    Gideon's Spies good read!!✊🏿
     

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    Possibly or producing a product that Black America would support. For instance how the Nation of Islam sells bean pies and Final Calls, something like that relevant to younger Black people.

    The funds can be collected nationally and 501c3s can be used to get the money out to the local arms. I’m saying too much now.

    Mtv Nyc GIF by Paramount+
    Love where you're going with this! ❤️
     
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    Thanks! Wait til you see my real plan.
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    I wanted to see if you had the disposition to question everyone. We don’t truly know who is or isn’t an agent because we do not have the intelligence apparatus partaking in the research.
    We’ll never know until documents get declassified decades later but what we do know is that the dominant society is watching and infiltrating the movement so that they can benefit regardless of the outcome as they always do. Whether it’s an Internet personality probably, but the overall sentiment can be driven without an agent nowadays. Snowden and the Twitter files exposed that, and so my take is to thoroughly assess all avenues to obtaining reparations.
     

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    Unfortunately we were too trusting of people and why I have no problems with delineating.
    But delineating doesn't solve the problem because our biggest sellouts are of our same lineage and there's more of them than Black immigrants.
     

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    Unfortunately we were too trusting of people and why I have no problems with delineating.
    The problem is you have people that look like us willing to betray us at the drop of a dime evidenced by any of our icons that were murdered......so EVERYONE'S PAPERWORK NEEDS TO BE CHECKED AND RECHECKED!
     

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    I'll tell people now I'm on Homeland Security 's watchlist since 2012 ......so I know they watch me and I'm careful about what I say online the reason I'm on their watchlist me and a few Brothers ran some what they called "radical" Facebook groups back in the day. Never been arrested or pulled in for questioning in my life but definitely got that letter putting me on the "No Fly List" just saying if they watching me they're watching us. Fuck'em I'm a do what I do they'll NEVER shut me up. ✊🏿
     

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    We pretty much know who the coons are.
    People like Coondance Owens, Brandon Tatum, Jason Whitlock, Jesse Lee Peterson are the hardcore sellouts.

    But then you have lesser sellouts who pretend to be for black people. Roland Martin, Tiffany Cross, Joy Reid, and Don Lemon.

    Then you have organizations like BLM, NAACP and HBCUs that sell us down the river.

    The commonality between them all of the are making money off the oppression of black people.

    But maybe I'm wrong!
     

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    We pretty much know who the coons are.
    People like Coondance Owens, Brandon Tatum, Jason Whitlock, Jesse Lee Peterson are the hardcore sellouts.

    But then you have lesser sellouts who pretend to be for black people. Roland Martin, Tiffany Cross, Joy Reid, and Don Lemon.

    Then you have organizations like BLM, NAACP and HBCUs that sell us down the river.

    The commonality between them all of the are making money off the oppression of black people.

    But maybe I'm wrong!
    Sellouts are a human phenomenon, you’ll always have them. The people that got JFK were considered sellouts to some while JFK was considered a sell ouut to others. Selllouts are as old as time. The problem is not being able to punish them.

    As ZxBro alluded to we have a law enforcement entity that is superseding our own ability to enforce order. So we cannot punish the sellouts without them running to the external law enforcement who has a vested interest in protecting the sellouts.
     
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    Or said simply there are sellouts. There will always be sellouts.
    And there's nothing we can do about it!
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    As long as we have the economic backing within our community and those who want to invest and we have immunity from this government to act on our own similar to the small hats.
    The object is to work behind the scenes were not asking anyone we do what needs to be done white law enforcement won't know we exist only those in the know would know........"yeah there's a group you can get in touch with" first rule of Fight Club.....
     
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    I hear you but I don't know if anything from our community could ever be that secret in this modern time. This government will always know something, but I hear ya.
    I know what you mean, but we gotta try. We need to use a good browser that's not controlled by the powers that be so that would exclude Google.. We would have to use a VPN.
     
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    No...we would have to keep it off the internet altogether.
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    The object is to work behind the scenes were not asking anyone we do what needs to be done white law enforcement won't know we exist only those in the know would know........"yeah there's a group you can get in touch with" first rule of Fight Club.....
    Totally understand why you say this, but it is possible that a person might not know anybody personally who wants to be apart of it. But since this is a Black site, I would think there would be high interest for something like this. I definitely know the work has to be done behind closed doors.
     
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    As long as we have the economic backing within our community and those who want to invest and we have immunity from this government to act on our own similar to the small hats.
    I do think we are getting our money up. More and more of our people are waking up and getting serious about getting their money and credit together. I see us buying more and more land and making strategic purchases in industries we previously were not in. I'm inspired and hopeful about our future as a people.
     
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    Sellouts are a human phenomenon, you’ll always have them. The people that got JFK were considered sellouts to some while JFK was considered a sell ouut to others. Selllouts are as old as time. The problem is not being able to punish them.

    As ZxBro alluded to we have a law enforcement entity that is superseding our own ability to enforce order. So we cannot punish the sellouts without them running to the external law enforcement who has a vested interest in protecting the sellouts.
    Yep. I know the Latinos call their sellouts "coconuts." Brown on the outside and White on the inside. The sellouts always have that safety net of this system they can call on to try and thwart our plans.
     

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    I do think we are getting our money up. More and more of our people are waking up and getting serious about getting their money and credit together. I see us buying more and more land and making strategic purchases in industries we previously were not in. I'm inspired and hopeful about our future as a people.
    #BringingBackBlackWallStreet
     

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    'Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    Who watches the Watchmen?

    The biggest problem isn't going to be getting info. The biggest potential problem is what befalls ALL information gathering agencies, organizations. The group ends up getting info things it was not originally created for.
    DuBois and Garvey.

    It will start out doing what it was supposed to do, all agencies do but the people inside it will be tested. Okay, you exposed coons, agents and sellouts. Do you report Dr. Umar kicking with a 'conscious stripper'? Do you do deep dive on TBA, Tariq, Dr. Boyce? You find out something like they owe taxes, is having an affair, is gay, has an old domestic abuse charge? Many of the things that we see going back and forth these days that were exposed between influencers. Do we put that on blast? If Tariq is in charge of it, do we approve of him using it for info on Bey? Or the reverse?

    The mission needs to be very clear. There needs to be some sort of oversight, transparency, or whatever. Generally speaking though, I like the idea and thought of something kinda similar. I'd like to have a black version of Vice or whatever and do a deep dive on certain things.

    For example. Texas wanted to change history books to calling slaves 'foreign workers'. And we reposted articles and wrote 'Yo, that's f*cked up' and that was it. I want a black oriented site like Ebony, The Grio, The Root, whatever, to do a deeper dive. Which specific company made these books, who runs this company. Who specifically in the Texas Dept. of Education approved it or what group. Find out ALL the names and put them on the jumbotron in an article and fight to have them removed if they are in the government or that company blacklisted who wrote the books.
     
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    By the way instead of using mainstream magazines we create our own, Our people could subscribe to.....that could be a stream of income coming in as well as a recruiting tool....
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    'Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    Who watches the Watchmen?

    The biggest problem isn't going to be getting info. The biggest potential problem is what befalls ALL information gathering agencies, organizations. The group ends up getting info things it was not originally created for.
    DuBois and Garvey.

    It will start out doing what it was supposed to do, all agencies do but the people inside it will be tested. Okay, you exposed coons, agents and sellouts. Do you report Dr. Umar kicking with a 'conscious stripper'? Do you do deep dive on TBA, Tariq, Dr. Boyce? You find out something like they owe taxes, is having an affair, is gay, has an old domestic abuse charge? Many of the things that we see going back and forth these days that were exposed between influencers. Do we put that on blast? If Tariq is in charge of it, do we approve of him using it for info on Bey? Or the reverse?

    The mission needs to be very clear. There needs to be some sort of oversight, transparency, or whatever. Generally speaking though, I like the idea and thought of something kinda similar. I'd like to have a black version of Vice or whatever and do a deep dive on certain things.

    For example. Texas wanted to change history books to calling slaves 'foreign workers'. And we reposted articles and wrote 'Yo, that's f*cked up' and that was it. I want a black oriented site like Ebony, The Grio, The Root, whatever, to do a deeper dive. Which specific company made these books, who runs this company. Who specifically in the Texas Dept. of Education approved it or what group. Find out ALL the names and put them on the jumbotron in an article and fight to have them removed if they are in the government or that company blacklisted who wrote the books.
    This is a well thought out response. I agree with all of it. I admit it does open up a can of worms since an intelligence agency by default will expose things that many were not expecting.
     
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    We pretty much know who the coons are.
    People like Coondance Owens, Brandon Tatum, Jason Whitlock, Jesse Lee Peterson are the hardcore sellouts.

    But then you have lesser sellouts who pretend to be for black people. Roland Martin, Tiffany Cross, Joy Reid, and Don Lemon.

    Then you have organizations like BLM, NAACP and HBCUs that sell us down the river.

    The commonality between them all of the are making money off the oppression of black people.

    But maybe I'm wrong!
    You are not wrong. You are indeed right.