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Explaining the Black American Struggle to Outside Groups is a Waste of Time

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    After seeing the Fresh and Fit/Akademiks fiasco it has become clear to me:

    Arguing with migrants is like arguing with a white person
    We have been so conditioned to view non-whites as a part of the same struggle as us that we HAVE to get them to see our side. What we must come to gri- with is that most don’t want to or care to see our side. They understand that there is a racial hierarchy here and they’ll maintain it because it helps them maintain their benefits. A healthy Black American community will remove a huge lane that many of the immigrants thrive In.

    The Racial Hierarchy fuels their ideologies
    As was stated in the latest video 6Z Freedman video, “The Spoils” keeps everyone on code. These people came here for the spoils and they will not let negro empathy to get between them and the gold. Remember, they have to lock in with the racial hierarchy or they will be sent back. If they had fortitude they would have fixed whatever issues they had at home.

    Tribalism
    In the case of Black migrants, we have a huge tribalism issue. We cannot get on code to save our lives as a global Black race. Many of these migrants have bickered themselves into second class citizenship in their homelands and they come and bring that same dysfunction. Think about it, if they would bicker with other Black people while they watch their resources be extracted, we have no chance of allying.


    My guidance is ti just focus on Black Empowerment and collaborating with those who are worthy. While we have to correct the white supremacist narratives coming from buffer classes, we don’t have to fight every battle. Fresh and Fit will never see eye to eye with Black Americans until White people show them that they are not special. At that point we need to laugh at them and keep it moving. Let white supremacy focus on the coons, we have build ing to do.
     

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    It really depends on your background, but I understand your frustration. Tribalism is a problem on our side of the pond as well; you have to understand that Africa is a gigantic continent of an absurd amount of tribes within the population, and everyone is going to think differently.

    Fresh and Fit, along with DJ Fatademika are provacateurs, trolls, and bad faith actors who are instilled to literally spew hot takes to go viral, and they know what the hot topics are so they latch on by throwing out bullshit so we can hop on and hate share their takes. That helps them because now Fresh and Fit have 500k+ subscribers and DJ Ak gets more views as well. We really think we're winning by memeing them but they won the war: people know who they are now.

    To wrap up my thoughts I personally am going to do everything I can to make relations across the diaspora heal, and I'm never going to stop checkout those that shit on FBA. I have family members be blood(I'm Liberian, my mom's side) and marriage that are FBA, and I refuse to have any beef with them. I despise those Fresh and Fit guys, as well as DJ Ak, but we shouldn't take what THEY say seriously.
     

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    It really depends on your background, but I understand your frustration. Tribalism is a problem on our side of the pond as well; you have to understand that Africa is a gigantic continent of an absurd amount of tribes within the population, and everyone is going to think differently.

    Fresh and Fit, along with DJ Fatademika are provacateurs, trolls, and bad faith actors who are instilled to literally spew hot takes to go viral, and they know what the hot topics are so they latch on by throwing out bullshit so we can hop on and hate share their takes. That helps them because now Fresh and Fit have 500k+ subscribers and DJ Ak gets more views as well. We really think we're winning by memeing them but they won the war: people know who they are now.

    To wrap up my thoughts I personally am going to do everything I can to make relations across the diaspora heal, and I'm never going to stop checkout those that shit on FBA. I have family members be blood(I'm Liberian, my mom's side) and marriage that are FBA, and I refuse to have any beef with them. I despise those Fresh and Fit guys, as well as DJ Ak, but we shouldn't take what THEY say seriously.
    I hear you but I feel like you are dismissing my argument a bit. Fresh N Fit are echoing a mind state prevalent across migrant populations of all races. It’s not just them saying something sensational for views, we see individuals at work in menial jobs having this same mind state.

    I‘m not advocating for distancing from migrants, I’m simply advocating for us to stop trying to explain our plight to migrants. They are willfully ignorant at best, active contributor in racism at worst, and we need to come to grips with that and move accordingly.

    We need to not focus on explaining to them the errors in their viewpoint and instead correct the narrative. We will not convert the Fresh N Fits the Luviis and etc and we have to accept that. These people are white supremacist tools and we should leave them be.
     

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    I hear you but I feel like you are dismissing my argument a bit. Fresh N Fit are echoing a mind state prevalent across migrant populations of all races. It’s not just them saying something sensational for views, we see individuals at work in menial jobs having this same mind state.

    I‘m not advocating for distancing from migrants, I’m simply advocating for us to stop trying to explain our plight to migrants. They are willfully ignorant at best, active contributor in racism at worst, and we need to come to grips with that and move accordingly.

    We need to not focus on explaining to them the errors in their viewpoint and instead correct the narrative. We will not convert the Fresh N Fits the Luviis and etc and we have to accept that. These people are white supremacist tools and we should leave them be.

    My apologies. I agree with you, I'm only going to focus on those that aren't of the like. I don't even acknowledge coons anymore because they aren't going to be saved, they'll learn the hard way though.
     

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    My apologies. I agree with you, I'm only going to focus on those that aren't of the like. I don't even acknowledge coons anymore because they aren't going to be saved, they'll learn the hard way though.
    This is the best way to be. Let's focus on building and be anti-coon as opposed to focusing so much on those that hate us that we don't build with those who are on our side.
     

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    After seeing the Fresh and Fit/Akademiks fiasco it has become clear to me:

    Arguing with migrants is like arguing with a white person
    We have been so conditioned to view non-whites as a part of the same struggle as us that we HAVE to get them to see our side. What we must come to gri- with is that most don’t want to or care to see our side. They understand that there is a racial hierarchy here and they’ll maintain it because it helps them maintain their benefits. A healthy Black American community will remove a huge lane that many of the immigrants thrive In.

    The Racial Hierarchy fuels their ideologies
    As was stated in the latest video 6Z Freedman video, “The Spoils” keeps everyone on code. These people came here for the spoils and they will not let negro empathy to get between them and the gold. Remember, they have to lock in with the racial hierarchy or they will be sent back. If they had fortitude they would have fixed whatever issues they had at home.

    Tribalism
    In the case of Black migrants, we have a huge tribalism issue. We cannot get on code to save our lives as a global Black race. Many of these migrants have bickered themselves into second class citizenship in their homelands and they come and bring that same dysfunction. Think about it, if they would bicker with other Black people while they watch their resources be extracted, we have no chance of allying.


    My guidance is ti just focus on Black Empowerment and collaborating with those who are worthy. While we have to correct the white supremacist narratives coming from buffer classes, we don’t have to fight every battle. Fresh and Fit will never see eye to eye with Black Americans until White people show them that they are not special. At that point we need to laugh at them and keep it moving. Let white supremacy focus on the coons, we have build ing to do.
    I felt this in my spirit! I've been on this journey and I agree 100%.
     

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    I felt this in my spirit! I've been on this journey and I agree 100%.
    Marley!!!

    So happy to see you on here, I love your writings. But yes, I think it’s important for us to focus on the mission rather than focusing on those who seek to tear us down. Some do it righteously but I feel that other do it to point away from their own stagnation.
     

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    I think one reason migrants do not respect FBAs is not having an officially recognized nationality, that all FBAs knowingly acknowledge, as they have. There is no uniformity, or cohesion. Line up 100 FBAs. Don't prepare them for what is next. Ask them who and what they are. Some will claim to be african american - there is no country called African America. Next one is Black, next one is Colored, next ones a nga, next ones... and on and on. Next one, she doesn't see color, and she identifies as a man. That needs fixing. People out of Africa self identify using a nationality. Nigerian, Ethiopian, etc. The point is, this simple matter of those 100 people having the same answer, requires greater cohesion and unity than is commonly demonstrated. It only appears minor on its face.
     

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    I think one reason migrants do not respect FBAs is not having an officially recognized nationality, that all FBAs knowingly acknowledge, as they have. There is no uniformity, or cohesion. Line up 100 FBAs. Don't prepare them for what is next. Ask them who and what they are. Some will claim to be african american - there is no country called African America. Next one is Black, next one is Colored, next ones a nga, next ones... and on and on. Next one, she doesn't see color, and she identifies as a man. That needs fixing. People out of Africa self identify using a nationality. Nigerian, Ethiopian, etc. The point is, this simple matter of those 100 people having the same answer, requires greater cohesion and unity than is commonly demonstrated. It only appears minor on its face.
    This is simply not true. We had cohesion before we even had a last name. They don’t respect us because there is no consequence for not respecting us. When you disrespect White people you lose opportunities, when you disrespect Black Americans nothing happens. In fact, in many cases you can own a store, disrespect us and we’ll be back the next day. Names, titles, statuses are all distractions. If someone knocks you upside the head and you do nothing, guess who is going to knock you upside the head tomorrow and the next day?

    That’s why I made this video. People think status and names mean anything and they don’t especially in a racial caste system. What matters is consequence, people need to pay a price for crossing you or else they’ll keep crossing you. This damn system so crooked that people get more benefit when they cross us so they do it with pride and pleasure.

     

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    I think one reason migrants do not respect FBAs is not having an officially recognized nationality, that all FBAs knowingly acknowledge, as they have. There is no uniformity, or cohesion. Line up 100 FBAs. Don't prepare them for what is next. Ask them who and what they are. Some will claim to be african american - there is no country called African America. Next one is Black, next one is Colored, next ones a nga, next ones... and on and on. Next one, she doesn't see color, and she identifies as a man. That needs fixing. People out of Africa self identify using a nationality. Nigerian, Ethiopian, etc. The point is, this simple matter of those 100 people having the same answer, requires greater cohesion and unity than is commonly demonstrated. It only appears minor on its face.
    If having a single nationality changed shit why do Nigerians not get along? They just put on the ritz for us, they identify as Igbo, Yoruba, Fulani, and all those other tribes they only "Nigerian" when they talk to you.
     
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    It's best to ignore fools and their idiotic folly. Don't feed them the algorithm food they need. Half of what they get is from outrage clicks on their silly content. It's best to mirror the actions of those in power. If we see them talking on us find ways to talk on them. But use subtlety; constantly circulating clowns like Lil Buss X and the likes does no good. Ignore them, or divert from them.
     

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    It's best to ignore fools and their idiotic folly. Don't feed them the algorithm food they need. Half of what they get is from outrage clicks on their silly content. It's best to mirror the actions of those in power. If we see them talking on us find ways to talk on them. But use subtlety; constantly circulating clowns like Lil Buss X and the likes does no good. Ignore them, or divert from them.
    Morgan Freeman Applause GIF by The Academy Awards
     

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    XD This thread just gave me an IDEA. How about we make the group. Proud Blacks. (Or Pro-Blacks?) Something to counter Proud Boys...? See the problem seems to be IDENTITY. So. We get something that ALL Blacks can identify to, especially, specifically FBAs. Something sufficiently "vague" and non-specific so as to not be "divisive" or promoting tribalism, yet that we can identify with...

    Just a thought.
    B1 Fam.
     

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    XD This thread just gave me an IDEA. How about we make the group. Proud Blacks. (Or Pro-Blacks?) Something to counter Proud Boys...? See the problem seems to be IDENTITY. So. We get something that ALL Blacks can identify to, especially, specifically FBAs. Something sufficiently "vague" and non-specific so as to not be "divisive" or promoting tribalism, yet that we can identify with...

    Just a thought.
    B1 Fam.
    We already have an identity, what we have been lacking was a code.
     

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    I agree it is best to focus on ones own lane. I refuse to be "Moses" to anyone. I wouldn't bother to explain my life or lives of FBAs to people. It doesn't matter who cannot relate to me or to people that are like me. A person tends to have a set view anyhow. Trying to change a person's mind is like ice skating uphill. Introducing another view point not akin to what is in place, is often treated like its a challenge from an adversary. Plus, the next person who might be asked to explain things may have a different slant, contradicting what I may have taken the time and energy to say. Leaving me to gather up all my well meaning efforts off the floor. I can see there are many paths to the summit, and that it is best to let people find out for themselves what is true or false. Also, I keep my ego out of it. If a wise person fights with a fool, on lookers just see a couple of fools fighting.
     

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    Akademic chubby chipmunk ass actually summed it up for them fresh n fit coons. Some Immigrants don't understand the fba experience so they undermine it cuz they're just happy to be here. Being on code isn't an option
    But even his clown ass was cooning and undermining our experience with the police and saying we had a loser mindstate.
    I agree it is best to focus on ones own lane. I refuse to be "Moses" to anyone. I wouldn't bother to explain my life or lives of FBAs to people. It doesn't matter who cannot relate to me or to people that are like me. A person tends to have a set view anyhow. Trying to change a person's mind is like ice skating uphill. Introducing another view point not akin to what is in place, is often treated like its a challenge from an adversary. Plus, the next person who might be asked to explain things may have a different slant, contradicting what I may have taken the time and energy to say. Leaving me to gather up all my well meaning efforts off the floor. I can see there are many paths to the summit, and that it is best to let people find out for themselves what is true or false. Also, I keep my ego out of it. If a wise person fights with a fool, on lookers just see a couple of fools fighting.
    When they know you can deprive them of something, they’ll start understanding you instantaneously.