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MR-D-ROB · 10/8/23

I have come to typically feel a lot of left leaning channels especially on YouTube such as Indisputable with Rashad Richey need to rethink their strategy.

If a police officer arrests and uses force in the process of an arrest and the guy turns out to be a drug dealer my opinion is don't defend these people. They are criminals.

We can't just defend every person simply on the basis that they are black. By all means police need to make arrests in a civil manner and not use excessive force. I'm not arguing against that.

However people shouldn't be dealing, using or in anyway involved with illegal drugs.

I just have a hard time defending anyone who puts themselves in that situation. My reason is it paints a negative stereotype of all black people.

If you do drugs, deal drugs and then the police shows to arrest you and you run, resist and aren't compliant then you get what you get.

By defending these criminals it weakens the argument when we need to defend someone like Philando Castile, George Floyd and John Crawford whom were completely innocent of any crime and were murdered nevertheless.

We can't just defend every person the way that Rashad Richey does. If they are guilty of a crime they need to be arrested and if they resist and it turns out badly then the consequences are what are.

Deleted member 1946 · 10/8/23

We shouldn't defend everyone. Too many sellouts and too many folks with an ulterior motive.

Deleted member 1946 · 10/8/23

MR-D-ROB said:
I have come to typically feel a lot of left leaning channels especially on YouTube such as Indisputable with Rashad Richey need to rethink their strategy.

If a police officer arrests and uses force in the process of an arrest and the guy turns out to be a drug dealer my opinion is don't defend these people. They are criminals.

We can't just defend every person simply on the basis that they are black. By all means police need to make arrests in a civil manner and not use excessive force. I'm not arguing against that.

However people shouldn't be dealing, using or in anyway involved with illegal drugs.

I just have a hard time defending anyone who puts themselves in that situation. My reason is it paints a negative stereotype of all black people.

If you do drugs, deal drugs and then the police shows to arrest you and you run, resist and aren't compliant then you get what you get.

By defending these criminals it weakens the argument when we need to defend someone like Philando Castile, George Floyd and John Crawford whom were completely innocent of any crime and were murdered nevertheless.

We can't just defend every person the way that Rashad Richey does. If they are guilty of a crime they need to be arrested and if they resist and it turns out badly then the consequences are what are.

I agree with much of this. We have to do better as a people of using discernment.

Jay · 10/8/23

MR-D-ROB said:
I have come to typically feel a lot of left leaning channels especially on YouTube such as Indisputable with Rashad Richey need to rethink their strategy.

If a police officer arrests and uses force in the process of an arrest and the guy turns out to be a drug dealer my opinion is don't defend these people. They are criminals.

We can't just defend every person simply on the basis that they are black. By all means police need to make arrests in a civil manner and not use excessive force. I'm not arguing against that.

However people shouldn't be dealing, using or in anyway involved with illegal drugs.

I just have a hard time defending anyone who puts themselves in that situation. My reason is it paints a negative stereotype of all black people.

If you do drugs, deal drugs and then the police shows to arrest you and you run, resist and aren't compliant then you get what you get.

By defending these criminals it weakens the argument when we need to defend someone like Philando Castile, George Floyd and John Crawford whom were completely innocent of any crime and were murdered nevertheless.

We can't just defend every person the way that Rashad Richey does. If they are guilty of a crime they need to be arrested and if they resist and it turns out badly then the consequences are what are.

This is all good until they pass a law that makes you a criminal and then now no one is speaking for you when the police are heavy-handed with you. I get it that we shouldn't cast a wide net but at the same time no matter what someone is doing, the police need to exercise restraint.

White dudes will shoot a whole church up with a semi-automatic weapon and somehow be taken alive by the police but I'm supposed to look the other way when they're beating up a Black dude just because he is selling weed?

What if that Black man is selling weed because the Crime Bill written by Joe Biden and signed by Bill Clinton locked him up, gave him a felony, and now he can't find skilled work because of his record and can't find a warehouse or construction job because they're filled with a bunch of immigrants?

It's not as Black and White and who cares if it stereotypes us...they stereotyped us when we are all in suits with conks.

cjg · 10/8/23

Gotta remember the souls (and there are many) that have gone to prison and were innocent...

... some have always maintained their innocence, some have met justice (after doing a 15-20+ bids) , some have never met justice ...

.. in those cases, Bro, the people that went to prison, never broke the law ...

Per statistics, most arrests in the US are of white ppl ... yet there are more blacks in jail ... somebody is exploiting the system, banking on the fact that no one will care about the innocents, jump to conclusions that "the black man did it" ...

... harsher sentences have been the status quo ...

We all know the devices here ... things haven't changed in x amount of years ... "3/5ths" ... "the great betrayal" ... its a part of the plan ...

Crime is crime, no matter who commits it... but punishment, I feel has always been unequal ... no excuses, but some ppl have the support system and others don't ...

... we had a support system ...

... it could have easily been the other way around, and I could have been one of the innocents ...

ZxBro · 10/8/23

"Innocent until proven guilty" should mean something. Too many of us are considered "guilty" the minute we come out of the womb.....! Everything wrong with this system comes back to White Supremacy. Until we stop working as individuals and start doing the collective work we'll remain vulnerable to this evil system. ✊🏿💯

RCNAL · 10/9/23

I won't defend Blacks who create their own issue. That said, white people use those situations to justify the murder of Tamir Rice, Philandro Castille, and the rest. The whole one big negro thing.

I have seen comments in articles on Yahoo or where ever where a black guy helps his own police abuse and white people in the comments section use it to suggest this is the typical white cop/black man encounter.

It's the 'what about' isms. The coons do as well.

MR-D-ROB · 10/9/23

I'm not hearing any of the usual bullshit.
But white supremacy. But the system. But the man...

But my ass.

Don't do drugs. Don't deal drugs.

If you do then deal with the consequences. That simple.

cjg · 10/10/23

It's a crooked system, I know .. Imagine how many other cases are like this (now compounded that over 50+ years, with all the jurisdictions, crooked everything, etc) ...

I know you know, but It's not cut-and dry Bro ...

US judges took millions in bribes to send kids to prison

Two judges shuttered a county-run juvenile detention center in exchange for $2.8million in illegal payments from a for-profit jails owner.

metro.co.uk

Harbinger · 10/10/23

MR-D-ROB said:
I'm not hearing any of the usual bullshit.
But white supremacy. But the system. But the man...

But my ass.

Don't do drugs. Don't deal drugs.

If you do then deal with the consequences. That simple.

You’re hearing what you want to hear. The CIA is the largest drug dealer in the USA war are your thoughts on that?

ZxBro · 10/10/23

So you're just turning a blind eye to those who are at literal war with our people 🤔 there are ways to manipulate people into doing things they wouldn't normally do,and we're dealing with the masters of manipulation when we're talking about the CIA/FBI....just saying sometimes in life choices are made for us.

Jay · 10/10/23

In this entire exchange I think it’s important to highlight that there is a difference between “talking to” Black people and “talking at” Black people.

Talking to Black people requires one to listen to Black people, understand their concerns, respect the concern and then responding with the additional context.

Talking at Black peoples is when you push an agenda regardless of what the Black people you’re conversing with think.

The point in saying this is that talking at Black people will never be an effective way to galvanize the people.

Yelling “you negroes gotta do better” while refusing to validate their legitimate issues and struggles navigating a society that sees them as little more than animals is not effective and can come off as antagonistic.

Of course Black people need to do better and not make excuses but they have to do that in a society that is waiting for them to do better and then find a way to destroy the “better”. When you remove that context your message loses credibility because it doesn’t mesh with Black people’s lived experience.

MR-D-ROB · 10/10/23

Two words:
Personal responsibility.

Troy · 10/10/23

MR-D-ROB said:
Two words:
Personal responsibility.

I like you as a poster but you're being obnoxious in here. Niggas really trying to build with you and you keep saying the same thing over and over again. Talking to us like we are fuck ups when a few people I know on here doing better in life than you are and go home to a Black wife.

ZxBro · 10/10/23

Troy said:
I like you as a poster but you're being obnoxious in here. Niggas really trying to build with you and you keep saying the same thing over and over again. Talking to us like we are fuck ups when a few people I know on here doing better in life than you are and go home to a Black wife.

ZxBro · 10/10/23

I won't get into your personal life but I'll give you two more words: (Acknowledgement and Empathy) have a good evening. ✊🏿💯✅️

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