Music

Invincible1914 · 8/31/21

This is a post I made on another board:

She almost have more Grammys than Aretha Franklin, Whitney Houston, Mariah Carey, Diana Ross, Patti Labell, Glady Knight, Etta James and Nina Simone combined. If you remove Aretha Franklin and her 18 Grammys, the. has more than twice of all of those other ladies put together.

If you replace Aretha with Ella Fitzgerald, she would actually have more than everyone of those ladies put together.

Yet not a single classic album.

How the hell is that possible?

Edit: Alicia Keys dropped her Songs in A Minor album the same year she won songwriter of the year.

What y’all think of this? Are they out there buying Grammys? Or is she really black history?

Nesut · 8/31/21

Beyoncé is the Budweiser of Black Music she’s the most popular but no one would claim her to be the best or even decent.

Mastamind · 8/31/21

Idk about the no classic take because that's opinionated as hell(imo Crazy in Love and/or Lemonade) but these awards are agenda driven as fuck. They said Formation is the greatest video of all time and I literally don't remember how it looks.

Bruh Man · 8/31/21

Mastamind said:
Idk about the no classic take because that's opinionated as hell(imo Crazy in Love and/or Lemonade) but these awards are agenda driven as fuck. They said Formation is the greatest video of all time and I literally don't remember how it looks.

To say that in a universe where Smooth Criminal exists is blasphemy. Bey is gah’bige

Mastamind · 8/31/21

Bruh Man said:
To say that in a universe where Smooth Criminal exists is blasphemy. Bey is gah’bige

It was by trash ass Rolling Stone though, not sure how much weight their opinion holds.

Red Velvet · 8/31/21

Don’t be disrespecting Queen Bey now. She is speaking to a new generation of women and you may or may not relate.

Jay · 8/31/21

Nesut said:
Beyoncé is the Budweiser of Black Music she’s the most popular but no one would claim her to be the best or even decent.

Expertly said. She is McDonald’s quick, easy, and disposable. What’s Beyoncé’s:

Respect
I Will Always Love You
Midnight Train to Georgia
Lady Marmalade

What song of hers can you put up next to those? It’s damn near disrespectful and one thing we have to factor in is that White awards should not dictate the Black Pantheon. That’s how weirdos like Lil Nas X get injected into our music.

Invincible1914 · 8/31/21

Red Velvet said:
Don’t be disrespecting Queen Bey now. She is speaking to a new generation of women and you may or may not relate.

I didn't disrespect her. Something about all of these accolades smell kind of fishy. On paper she's the greatest artist (not just female) of all time. She has 15 more Grammys than Michael Jackson. There has to be some middle between ground between her being up there with Mozart and Beethoven and disrespecting her name.

This is the same BS I ran into on the other board. They were in there talking bout she was ghost writing for Aaliyah.

Invincible1914 · 8/31/21

Jay said:
Expertly said. She is McDonald’s quick, easy, and disposable. What’s Beyoncé’s:

Respect
I Will Always Love You
Midnight Train to Georgia
Lady Marmalade

What song of hers can you put up next to those? It’s damn near disrespectful and one thing we have to factor in is that White awards should not dictate the Black Pantheon. That’s how weirdos like Lil Nas X get injected into our music.

Yeah, black history shouldn't be for sale. B and Jay-Z are one Grammy away from having 50. I imagine Lil Nas X is gonna clean up next year.

Jay · 8/31/21

Invincible1914 said:
I didn't disrespect her. Something about all of these accolades smell kind of fishy. On paper she's the greatest artist (not just female) of all time. She has 15 more Grammys than Michael Jackson. There has to be some middle between ground between her being up there with Mozart and Beethoven and disrespecting her name.

This is the same BS I ran into on the other board. They were in there talking bout she was ghost writing for Aaliyah.

Yeah and Beyoncé doesn’t even hold a candle to MJ it ain’t even close, she wouldn’t even state that. That’s why we need to leave those awards out of the discussion of who is and isn’t the greatest. Lil Nas X gonna have 100 Grammys by time all is said and done.

disgust

Red Velvet · 8/31/21

Invincible1914 said:
I didn't disrespect her. Something about all of these accolades smell kind of fishy. On paper she's the greatest artist (not just female) of all time. She has 15 more Grammys than Michael Jackson. There has to be some middle between ground between her being up there with Mozart and Beethoven and disrespecting her name.

This is the same BS I ran into on the other board. They were in there talking bout she was ghost writing for Aaliyah.

I don’t think it’s a conspiracy, it’s just that she resonates with the new generation and she is being awarded as such.

As for her writing for Aaliyah I don’t see if the age even adds up.

Mud City Savage · 8/31/21

It's interesting to see a black woman having the most grammys, it shows that people are listening. You also have to consider artists like Rihanna, as she too has a slew of Grammys if I remember correctly.

I'm just glad that we're represented via these artists and the awards they win.

RedMoon · 8/31/21

Red Velvet said:
Don’t be disrespecting Queen Bey now. She is speaking to a new generation of women and you may or may not relate.

Mud City Savage said:
It's interesting to see a black woman having the most grammys, it shows that people are listening. You also have to consider artists like Rihanna, as she too has a slew of Grammys if I remember correctly.

I'm just glad that we're represented via these artists and the awards they win.

Agree with both of these. I understand what the others are saying but the representation for the new generations is an important thing.

Nesut · 9/2/21

RedMoon said:
Agree with both of these. I understand what the others are saying but the representation for the new generations is an important thing.

Is representation always important? Meg the Stallion is representation too, would you want your daughter acting like her?

Invincible1914 · 9/2/21

Nesut said:
Is representation always important? Meg the Stallion is representation too, would you want your daughter acting like her?

Lil Nas X is representing the young black male in the same way. Tokens don’t represent us.

Nesut · 9/2/21

Invincible1914 said:
Lil Nas X is representing the young black male in the same way. Tokens don’t represent us.

100% factual. That’s White people’s representation of Black people. That’s their sick and twisted view of us, nothing about it is organic. If we had complete control over our media infrastructure unencumbered by White interest it would not look like Lil Nas X. I bet within 20 years it’d go back to 70’s style live instrumentation for a lot of our music with good quality messages.

There’s a reason why Silk Sonic - Leave the Door Open was such a huge hit.

eclipsed · 9/2/21

I can't think of a single album she did where it was overwhelmingly good. She would have one or two great songs and the rest was forgettable. A lot of her new music feels lazy and trashy as well. Maybe that is just me though. I loved her in Destiny's Child but since she went solo, seems like she is high on herself. She has talent, don't get me wrong but plenty of other women out there do better work. Just saying.

Invincible1914 · 9/2/21

Nesut said:
100% factual. That’s White people’s representation of Black people. That’s their sick and twisted view of us, nothing about it is organic. If we had complete control over our media infrastructure unencumbered by White interest it would not look like Lil Nas X. I bet within 20 years it’d go back to 70’s style live instrumentation for a lot of our music with good quality messages.

There’s a reason why Silk Sonic - Leave the Door Open was such a huge hit.

Lowkey it’s shifted from the white peoples view to the gay people‘s view. I blame Ja Rule and communist Russia

Jay · 9/2/21

eclipsed said:
I can't think of a single album she did where it was overwhelmingly good. She would have one or two great songs and the rest was forgettable. A lot of her new music feels lazy and trashy as well. Maybe that is just me though. I loved her in Destiny's Child but since she went solo, seems like she is high on herself. She has talent, don't get me wrong but plenty of other women out there do better work. Just saying.

I agree with this 100%, I think that her music with Destiny’s Child was much much better. Better messages, better substance, and sounded better. Check Up On It is the song that to me encompasses her solo career…terrible lyrics, sucky beat, quick/catchy/disposable.

Invincible1914 said:
Lowkey it’s shifted from the white peoples view to the gay people‘s view. I blame Ja Rule and communist Russia

Hahaha you got your tin-foil kufi on. The funny thing is that some stuff be sounding so nuts and then you be like

“yo 50 years ago they was testing syphilis on people”

“What they was selling us for medical testing”

”What they bombed an actual city block”

”What the national guard came and brought their planes into to attack”

Invincible1914 · 9/2/21

Jay said:
I agree with this 100%, I think that her music with Destiny’s Child was much much better. Better messages, better substance, and sounded better. Check Up On It is the song that to me encompasses her solo career…terrible lyrics, sucky beat, quick/catchy/disposable.

Hahaha you got your tin-foil kufi on. The funny thing is that some stuff be sounding so nuts and then you be like

“yo 50 years ago they was testing syphilis on people”

“What they was selling us for medical testing”

”What they bombed an actual city block”

”What the national guard came and brought their planes into to attack”

Build projects to house black people
Spread drugs through black communities
Declare war on drugs
Brown people get rich on drugs
Declare war on immigration
White kids start taking drugs
Declare war on ”Super Predators”
Make Lizzie and Lil Nas X the face of Black America
@Jay makes message board

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Nesut · 9/2/21

Invincible1914 said:
Lowkey it’s shifted from the white peoples view to the gay people‘s view. I blame Ja Rule and communist Russia

I would venture to say that it‘s still White People view but LGBT is another dysfunction they are injecting into our politic in addition to feminism, violence, drug use, etc.

Jay · 9/2/21

Invincible1914 said:
Build projects to house black people

Spread drugs through black communities

Declare war on drugs

Brown people get rich on drugs

Declare war on immigration

White kids start taking drugs

Declare war on ”Super Predators”

Make Lizzie and Lil Nas X the face of Black America

@Jay makes message board

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Wait til niggas find out I’m a Master Mason, game over!

Invincible1914 · 9/2/21

Jay said:
Wait til niggas find out I’m a Master Mason, game over!

Invincible1914 · 9/2/21

Nesut said:
I would venture to say that it‘s still White People view but LGBT is another dysfunction they are injecting into our politic in addition to feminism, violence, drug use, etc.

They are using civil rights issues to sneak in their agenda.

Bruh Man · 9/2/21

Invincible1914 said:
They are using civil rights issues to sneak in their agenda.

yup but they aint facing what we facing thats the cold piece. then you have sambo niggas caping for them and everyone else under the sun

Troy · 9/2/21

Bruh Man said:
yup but they aint facing what we facing thats the cold piece. then you have sambo niggas caping for them and everyone else under the sun

Those rainbow coalition niggas gotta get up out the paint

Jball · 9/3/21

Having seen a black woman winning such awards is a big achievement and encouragement for the black power around the world.

Invincible1914 · 9/3/21

Jball said:
Having seen a black woman winning such awards is a big achievement and encouragement for the black power around the world.

Question…

Some of those awards she was winning in years she didn’t even put out an album. It looks like some palms got greased because people who were more deserving (even people of color). One great example is her winning songwriter of the year for Survivor and Jumping Jumping in the same year Alicia Keys dropped Songs in A Minor…

Her management team is willing to buy up some Grammys…

How is that a big achievement or encouraging?

I love Beyoncé btw.

Jay · 9/3/21

Invincible1914 said:
Question…

Some of those awards she was winning in years she didn’t even put out an album. It looks like some palms got greased because people who were more deserving (even people of color). One great example is her winning songwriter of the year for Survivor and Jumping Jumping in the same year Alicia Keys dropped Songs in A Minor…

Her management team is willing to buy up some Grammys…

How is that a big achievement or encouraging?

I love Beyoncé btw.

When you’re starved for attention, any attention seems good.

Nesut · 9/3/21

Invincible1914 said:
Question…

Some of those awards she was winning in years she didn’t even put out an album. It looks like some palms got greased because people who were more deserving (even people of color). One great example is her winning songwriter of the year for Survivor and Jumping Jumping in the same year Alicia Keys dropped Songs in A Minor…

Her management team is willing to buy up some Grammys…

How is that a big achievement or encouraging?

I love Beyoncé btw.

They either buying them or just apart of the overarching machine that controls both the label and the Grammy’s.

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