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Bipartisan police reform negotiations over without deal

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    Lead negotiators for Democrats, Booker and Rep. Karen Bass, D-Calif., made that final offer during a meeting Tuesday. Democrats said it was "the bare minimum of what they could accept at this point," a source told ABC News.

    Booker told reporters at the Capitol later Wednesday that despite "significant strides" made in negotiations, the groups could not come to an agreement and indicated that he will revisit other paths to achieve police reforms.

    Bipartisan police reform negotiations over without deal

    After months of negotiations, bipartisan police reform talks are officially over without a deal, Sen. Cory Booker confirmed.
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    This whole “anybody but Trump” thing ain’t really working out too well.
     
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    This is why I don't vote. We never get anything.
     
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    Are we really shocked? Nothing ever gets done. Then they wonder why we're so angry.
     
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    “This whole “anybody but Trump” thing ain’t really working out too well.”

    Ha!
     
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    lexodyssey said:
    Are we really shocked? Nothing ever gets done. Then they wonder why we're so angry.
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    Caprice said:
    “This whole “anybody but Trump” thing ain’t really working out too well.”

    Ha!
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    We need to stop voting for the lesser of two evils and not vote for evil at all. People were so afraid of giving Leviathan another 4 years that they put the 7 headed hydra in office and try to cape for it.

    “We’ll at least it’s a blue hydra and not a red one.
     
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    There needs to be a plan set up for a third party, a legitimate one at that. Until this happens everyone is gonna remain complacent with the default two. This is very possible but we have to start sooner than later.
     
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    Mastamind said:
    There needs to be a plan set up for a third party, a legitimate one at that. Until this happens everyone is gonna remain complacent with the default two. This is very possible but we have to start sooner than later.
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    What would stop them from getting corrupted just like the other two?
     
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    exactly why people need to stop listening to the wig wearing mammies and stop giving these clowns our vote. Niggas straight had the house and senate during part of obamas first term and still made excuses why ain’t shit get some.
     
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    exactly why people need to stop listening to the wig wearing mammies and stop giving these clowns our vote. Niggas straight had the house and senate during part of obamas first term and still made excuses why ain’t shit get some.
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    We had the House and Senate?
    How?
     
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    This was the least surprising news that I saw this week.
     
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    TheHarmattan said:
    We had the House and Senate?
    How?
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    2009
    House of Representatives 257 Democrats and 178 Republicans.
    Senate 59 Democratic votes in the Senate. Republicans held 41 seats.
     
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    Bruh Man said:
    2009
    House of Representatives 257 Democrats and 178 Republicans.
    Senate 59 Democratic votes in the Senate. Republicans held 41 seats.
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    I understand. When you said "we", I thought you were talking about Black People. The Democrats are proving to Black People, daily, about how they feel about Black People.

    When you say "we" aren't you really talking about Democrats and not Black People?
     
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    TheHarmattan said:
    I understand. When you said "we", I thought you were talking about Black People. The Democrats are proving to Black People, daily, about how they feel about Black People.

    When you say "we" aren't you really talking about Democrats and not Black People?
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    I never said "we" mr. cybertron. I said "Niggas straight had the house and senate during part of obamas first term and still made excuses why ain’t shit get some." Niggas being a pronoun for Democrats and not being a reference to black americans. See man you made me get on my computer and type all proper and shit, let me be me.
     
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    TheHarmattan said:
    I understand. When you said "we", I thought you were talking about Black People. The Democrats are proving to Black People, daily, about how they feel about Black People.

    When you say "we" aren't you really talking about Democrats and not Black People?
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    Democrats is being hard on hoes this Presidency.
     
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    I never said "we" mr. cybertron. I said "Niggas straight had the house and senate during part of obamas first term and still made excuses why ain’t shit get some." Niggas being a pronoun for Democrats and not being a reference to black americans. See man you made me get on my computer and type all proper and shit, let me be me.
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    Mr. Cybertron?
    Past! Hey, I got an ounce of Energon for sale.

    Anyhow, there are a thousand ways to use nigga, hell, Mexicans like 69 are using it without getting the Skittles punched out of him.

    No harm, no foul.
     
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    Of course.
     
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    Rollie Forbes said:
    Of course.
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    Uncle Ruckus was on TV straight up diminishing it too. It was so bad…what a coon.
     
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    Jay said:
    Uncle Ruckus was on TV straight up diminishing it too. It was so bad…what a coon.
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    I saw an interview with Jim Clyburn shortly after the George Floyd bill was introduced. He insinuated then that he didn't think that qualified immunity was worth fighting for.
     
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    Jay said:
    Uncle Ruckus was on TV straight up diminishing it too. It was so bad…what a coon.
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    This is the jam.
     
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    These people don't wanna change but want you to be more accepting and open-minded smh
     
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    These people don't wanna change but want you to be more accepting and open-minded smh
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    watchu talhmbout willis?
     
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    Neither party is actually trying to reform the police. This is something that definitely won't happen in either the House of Representatives or in the Senate. Even if something gets passed in the House it won't ever make it through Senate where to get past the filibuster it would need over 60 votes.

    This is why voting over and over and hoping that will lead to change is futile. No matter who much we vote there will likely never be enough votes to get 60 Democrats in Senate. Even if somehow we do get 60 we always need to worry about people like Manchin and Sinema. So in actuality we would need 62 to 63 Democrats in Senate for any hope of a police reform bill passing. That is pretty much impossible and unrealistic.

    However if you look at one of the two posts I out up on police reform I pointed out a lot that the president can do through executive order that would make actual and meaningful change. The fact that nothing is being done by Biden is by choice and because he doesn't care.

    The reason he doesn't care is because he and the Democrats will get a large percentage of our vote regardless. Because of that he won't take any executive action and risk upsetting rural and suburban white voters. Why should he upset them for the black vote which he will get anyway even if he doesn't pass police reform.

    Police reform isn't a priority to politicians because it is something needed mainly for black voters and they will get that vote without passing police reform.

    If you ask me I don't think it's even a priority to black voters.

    Even on this site if you search by title only there are only 3 threads that contain the words "police reform" Two by me, one of which was a repost. And the other by Jay. One of mine didn't get a single response.

    It's rarely if ever seriously demanded from voters. We just get upset when something happens and they wait for it to blow over and then we go out and vote for them anyway.

    So nothing will ever change.
     
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    TheHarmattan said:

    Mr. Cybertron?
    Past! Hey, I got an ounce of Energon for sale.

    Anyhow, there are a thousand ways to use nigga, hell, Mexicans like 69 are using it without getting the Skittles punched out of him.

    No harm, no foul.
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    MR-D-ROB said:
    Neither party is actually trying to reform the police. This is something that definitely won't happen in either the House of Representatives or in the Senate. Even if something gets passed in the House it won't ever make it through Senate where to get past the filibuster it would need over 60 votes.

    This is why voting over and over and hoping that will lead to change is futile. No matter who much we vote there will likely never be enough votes to get 60 Democrats in Senate. Even if somehow we do get 60 we always need to worry about people like Manchin and Sinema. So in actuality we would need 62 to 63 Democrats in Senate for any hope of a police reform bill passing. That is pretty much impossible and unrealistic.

    However if you look at one of the two posts I out up on police reform I pointed out a lot that the president can do through executive order that would make actual and meaningful change. The fact that nothing is being done by Biden is by choice and because he doesn't care.

    The reason he doesn't care is because he and the Democrats will get a large percentage of our vote regardless. Because of that he won't take any executive action and risk upsetting rural and suburban white voters. Why should he upset them for the black vote which he will get anyway even if he doesn't pass police reform.

    Police reform isn't a priority to politicians because it is something needed mainly for black voters and they will get that vote without passing police reform.

    If you ask me I don't think it's even a priority to black voters.

    Even on this site if you search by title only there are only 3 threads that contain the words "police reform" Two by me, one of which was a repost. And the other by Jay. One of mine didn't get a single response.

    It's rarely if ever seriously demanded from voters. We just get upset when something happens and they wait for it to blow over and then we go out and vote for them anyway.

    So nothing will ever change.
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    Biden is a racist, that’s why he doesn’t care.
    We need to collectively pull out of the Democratic Party and register as Independents; and then vote however and whenever it’s beneficial for us.
     
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