Thank you for sharing your thoughts. Although I’ve never been anywhere in slippers and pajamas, respectability politics are trash for us. I told the podcaster that so far it is the Black establishments and churches that focus on “ lookism”. I get that whites have their corporate dress and discriminations too, but c’mon… a dental office? As a doctor or medical professional, be prepared to see all kinds of people. Not just those who are fresh pressed. This goes for all races and backgrounds.Respectability politics is shit but we as a Black community could designate if that is or is not respectable behavior. I’m in my 40’s and we couldn’t go outside the house in some bullshit
I think that internally as Black people we have the right to dictate our culture so if we say that bonnets and slippers belong in the house then it is what it is regardless what White people think. As a Black man, I don’t respect that clothing when worn outside of the house and it has nothing to do with white people. If someone wants to dress tacky that’s them but I don’t want them conflating tackiness with being Black.Sooooo, a fellow podcaster( Black woman) who posted about this, agrees with the dentist. She believes if we want others/ whites to respect us, we should respect ourselves first. The dental practice has the right to do this, she says.
Before telling y’all what I told her, what are your thoughts on this?🙄
I agree. As far as a medical practice not seeing patients due to slippers and bonnets though?? it is a step too far. We don’t know everyone’s situations. Like you said, it is the dentist’s practice and so they can set whatever rules they want. Patients have freedoms to go elsewhere with their business.Looking for whites and others to respect us is a waste of time. However, this dental practice and other businesses have the right and more should do this. We used to pick on people who came out the house like they just rolled out the bed (unless it was an emergency). You could easily throw on a t-shirt and some sweats/shorts/skirt, or even a dress. You don't have to be "fresh pressed" to leave the house.
They were arguing about this on Twitter as well. People are saying it's anti-black... but who designated bonnets and slippers to be a Black thing? I saw whites and asians doing it (and worse!) long before any of our people. Why is it that some of us feel the need to lower the bar almost to hell when Black people try to set standards for their businesses?? It brings to mind that Black restaurant that was trying to get people to stop twerking on their tables and they faced SO much backlash online.
Something to think about: Some of these same people complaining will jump through hoops and comply if any non-Black establishment had the same standards or something in place that was stricter.
Tripping real hard💯💯💯The dentist is tripping.
Ok cool! I thought I’d share this because many would consider me composed, conservative etc. so I’m a little surprised that I take issue with the dental office, but then again being on this planet four decades , I learn to see a little deeper than what’s on the surface sometimes. I agree that bad hygiene and sloppy dress is a no-no but a medical establishment is there to help sick people, not care what’s on their feet or if their hair done or not.Personally, I DO NOT have an issue with this policy. I talked about this on my podcast last night...
I agree with you on that point... I mean there's no need for a suit and tie for the dentist office... but don't come to a public establishment looking like you just jumped out of bed...Ok cool! I thought I’d share this because many would consider me composed, conservative etc. so I’m a little surprised that I take issue with the dental office, but then again being on this planet four decades , I learn to see a little deeper than what’s on the surface sometimes. I agree that bad hygiene and sloppy dress is a no-no but a medical establishment is there to help sick people, not care what’s on their feet or if their hair done or not.
I think we all can agree on that point lol. As one parent said though, her son’s issues and physical impairment makes him more comfortable in slippers and sometimes she will have a scarf on. She is looking for help, not being told to fully dress before arriving. To be fair, the medical practice my fam go to have a mix of white and Hispanics in slippers and jeans, scarves but no one truly cares and never turned away…I agree with you on that point... I mean there's no need for a suit and tie for the dentist office... but don't come to a public establishment looking like you just jumped out of bed...
The issue I have is when you allow low standards and a cluster of people with low standards patronize your business it will brand your business. Professionals won’t feel comfortable going to a dental practice if everyone id in there with bonnets and slippers.I think we all can agree on that point lol. As one parent said though, her son’s issues and physical impairment makes him more comfortable in slippers and sometimes she will have a scarf on. She is looking for help, not being told to fully dress before arriving. To be fair, the medical practice my fam go to have a mix of white and Hispanics in slippers and jeans, scarves but no one truly cares and never turned away…
Don't like it, go to another dentist, simple. If there are exceptions that need to be made, call the practice first. They are going to tell you yes or no.I agree. As far as a medical practice not seeing patients due to slippers and bonnets though?? it is a step too far. We don’t know everyone’s situations. Like you said, it is the dentist’s practice and so they can set whatever rules they want. Patients have freedoms to go elsewhere with their business.
Black people DO comply with “ white establishments “ more , but the CROWN act is proof that Blacks are tired of the “ corporate attire and “ straight hair politics. So, yes we do go against the grain of white establishments too for certain things.
Yes, this whole sentence. As one of my Twitter mutuals would say... the community is getting "COOKED!!!"In fact, I would go so far as to say that looking sloppy is what non-Blacks did, and some of us have started to live down to their standard.
Great point.Why doesn't McDonald'a get all this smoke for the "no shoes, no shirt, no service" signs that have been displayed in their restaurants since the 1970's?
All I see is a dentist who is trying to bring a much needed service (oral care is super important) to the people who need it the most. As far as the Black dentist's quality of work, that tweeter gave no examples, just some ol' "I heard" nonsense. I call cap.Hi guys! Thanks for your different perspectives. I love it!
I’ve looked more into this, and still am… This Tweet disturbed me…
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It is possible that her tweet is fabricated… a few more from that area said the same thing. Thank you for your thoughts!All I see is a dentist who is trying to bring a much needed service (oral care is super important) to the people who need it the most. As far as the Black dentist's quality of work, that tweeter gave no examples, just some ol' "I heard" nonsense. I call cap.
Issues like this is why many entrepreneurial/self-starting Black people leave the community and don’t come back. All the dentist said is to not come in her practice with pajamas on and she is being attacked by supposed Black people.It is possible that her tweet is fabricated… a few more from that area said the same thing. Thank you for your thoughts!
Some Black establishments do feel this way, and leave the community… good for them. I will always hope they have the best and wish them nothing but positivity.Issues like this is why many entrepreneurial/self-starting Black people leave the community and don’t come back. All the dentist said is to not come in her practice with pajamas on and she is being attacked by supposed Black people.
Now let’s say she shuts her business down or moves to the suburbs now that community is left without a dentist. Guess who is going to fill the gap? Some middle eastern that sees Black people like monkeys and is gonna be there yanking black people’s teeth out and charging your state or federal benefits and calling it a day.
The community will be able to wear whatever they want but they will be disrespected, overcharged, and under services and whose fault will it be? That community. They don’t want better so they will end up with nothing.
But why compare them to a White dentist like that’s the standard we have to meet? Most White people don’t understand our cultural customs that’s why when I say “I need a haircut” they’ll say “what your hair is so short you don’t need one” but another Black person will see my hair and see my line is off and etc.Some Black establishments do feel this way, and leave the community… good for them. I will always hope they have the best and wish them nothing but positivity.
Right now, a family member is going through Black dentist who has overcharged him and we are now learning this is common. This dentist is not in a “ ghetto” area though. Yes, it’s a simple rule to not wear a scarf or sippers. As I’ve stated, I have zero problems with that, I’m just comparing it to the mixed/ white med offices I go to that have high standards/respect, friendly faces, and zero cares about bonnets and slippers🤷🏽♀️
Interesting… some Blacks are saying that Black people shouldn’t take the sign as racist. Although other races wear scarves and bonnets too, black women tend to wear them more to cover up hair not ready or for protection, etc. I know some women who are having the day off work and would just drop their child off at school for those few moments and yes, go back to bed. If their behinds, chest, etc are exposed or if they haven’t bathed, then of course that is unacceptable. I think we can all agree on that.But why compare them to a White dentist like that’s the standard we have to meet? Most White people don’t understand our cultural customs that’s why when I say “I need a haircut” they’ll say “what your hair is so short you don’t need one” but another Black person will see my hair and see my line is off and etc.
In our community we understand that bonnets are not garments you wear outside and so accomplished people like the dentist is saying to keep your bonnet at home.
I bet the people upset have not accomplished much in their lives. So if we follow them guess where we going to be as a community? Out here with nothing too.
Girl i won’t even take my trash to the chute with my bonnet on. I was born in 84 and the only girls that wore bonnets outside growing up were the “ghetto” ones. I was raised in New York but my parents are from the South and I had an extremely traditional upbringing.Interesting… some Blacks are saying that Black people shouldn’t take the sign as racist. Although other races wear scarves and bonnets too, black women tend to wear them more to cover up hair not ready or for protection, etc. I know some women who are having the day off work and would just drop their child off at school for those few moments and yes, go back to bed. If their behinds, chest, etc are exposed or if they haven’t bathed, then of course that is unacceptable. I think we can all agree on that.
It is what she says it is, it's her practice. Can't fault her.Sooooo, a fellow podcaster( Black woman) who posted about this, agrees with the dentist. She believes if we want others/ whites to respect us, we should respect ourselves first. The dental practice has the right to do this, she says.
Before telling y’all what I told her, what are your thoughts on this?🙄
I believe that’s an unfair characterization of the issue. I cannot speak for anyone here but I believe the consensus is that both parties are acting well within their rights. The patrons have the right to dress as they wish and the Dr. has the right to refuse them service.Thank you all for your responses… so in conclusion:
1) it is her practice and she can establish her own rules ( completely agree)
2) those who tend to wear slippers and bonnets tend to be “ ghetto, unclean, poor examples of black communities
3) backlash against these rules proves and further drives upstanding well to do black folks from these poorly dressed blacks.
Great post.Thank you all for your responses… so in conclusion:
1) it is her practice and she can establish her own rules ( completely agree)
2) those who tend to wear slippers and bonnets tend to be “ ghetto, unclean, poor examples of black communities
3) backlash against these rules proves and further drives upstanding well to do black folks from these poorly dressed blacks.
I truly appreciate that!✊🏽♥️Great post.
Okay okay I’m wit that analogy!!!✊🏽Just a side note we are at war so when we go out we should dress appropriately hard shoes and war ready you can't bop in slippers and PJ'S nor can you conceal carry just saying......it can jump off at anytime are you prepared? ✊🏿💯 #BlackBoots
#NinjaMask #CandyBars
😬😞😞this is one of those cases where covering up and being modest should have been a priority. This is a perfect example of needing to cover up and also a good example of how we are to be presentable in “ certain spaces “ She is UNDER dressed. Big difference from someone wearing a scarf in a cold dentist office 😅… heck at least with sweats or shirt on, the “ goods” wouldn’t be visible.
She is absolutely correct, if you don't have self respect, you're not fit to live.Sooooo, a fellow podcaster( Black woman) who posted about this, agrees with the dentist. She believes if we want others/ whites to respect us, we should respect ourselves first. The dental practice has the right to do this, she says.
Before telling y’all what I told her, what are your thoughts on this?🙄
But who really must wear a bonnet and house slippers in public?!I agree. As far as a medical practice not seeing patients due to slippers and bonnets though?? it is a step too far. We don’t know everyone’s situations. Like you said, it is the dentist’s practice and so they can set whatever rules they want. Patients have freedoms to go elsewhere with their business.
Black people DO comply with “ white establishments “ more , but the CROWN act is proof that Blacks are tired of the “ corporate attire and “ straight hair politics. So, yes we do go against the grain of white establishments too for certain things.
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