It typically takes over a year to read and absorb the text.Curious to see if anyone here has. I have not but I am working on it now. Got myself a new KJV bible and I am reading it almost daily. I want to actually read the entire thing instead to cherry-picking and reading the same few chapters and verses over and over again. I just have to stick with it. I have been slacking the last few days cause of work. Trying to read it every night though.
My starting point is 2 Timothy 3:16. Everything needed to understand the Bible is within the text itself.I have read the New Testament and most of the Old. To read the Old, there are a lot of things dealing with ancient culture that you don't understand. But I still have tried to read it.
The Bible talks about serpent-looking angels in Heaven surrounding God's Throne. No wonder when an angel appears to people, their first words are, "Don't fear me."
Anyhow here is a scholarly version of Genesis.
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Below is the video about the appearance of angels
Genesis 3a: The Serpent
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Genesis 3b: The Fall
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There are many more videos illustrating passages from Dr. Michael Heiser's books.
If you want to discuss, I'm open to all discussion because this is a favorite subject of mine.
I have studied Satanism in the past just to know what I was going up against. I learned a lot about the structure and the philosophy behind someone joining a group and becoming a Satanist. What was the draw?Never have and never will as I do not follow anything that tells me what to think of the world rather how to think about it.
How can you speak that as undeniable truth when the institution of Christianity can't even agree on the truth. You have 6 major denominations.I have studied Satanism in the past just to know what I was going up against. I learned a lot about the structure and the philosophy behind someone joining a group and becoming a Satanist. What was the draw?
Firstly, as I assume that you already know, that Satanists do NOT worship Satan. They look to him for inspiration. They figure that this being was in the highest ranks of God's Order and decided to leave, i.e., kicked the hell out! LOL
They praise Satan for following his own path and that they should do the same.
Their motto is "Do What Thou Wilt". Think of anything and if you want to do it, then do it. Horse dating? Approved! Beheading the first person you see in the morning? Approved. If you want a husband or wife in the 3rd grade? Approved!
Satanists worship themselves and all the desires that they can fulfill in this life and in their minds they feel like that is OK.
If you think you're going to be neutral in this spiritual war, you got another think coming. The choice that you think you are making has already been made for you.
Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters.
- Jesus in Matthew 12:30
Are you going to "Do What Thou Wilt"?
It's OK to differ if I'm reading your post correctly. Some put more emphasis on certain things and others do the same.How can you speak that as undeniable truth when the institution of Christianity can't even agree on the truth. You have 6 major denominations.
Catholicism
Protestantism
Eastern Orthodoxy
Oriental Orthodoxy
Restorationism
The Church of the East
Each of these major denominations have major differences in the story of Christianity, they do not agree. You have Chalcedonian and Non-Chalcedonian denominations, Trinitarian and Non-Trinitarian, and etc. Christianity doesn't even have its story straight so how can you proselytize a truth that is not unified?
If a remote is the color red, it is a fact. I cannot interpret it as any color other than red and be factual. So if the Bible is fact why do all these churches disagree on it? Not only do Protestants disagree with Catholics, they even disagree with each other which is why you have Lutherans, Anglicans, Baptists, Pentacostals, Adventists, etc.
We can easily look at the Ecumenical Councils to see how the story was shaped by the will of man. I was planning on making a thread on this but you got me talking about it in this thread.
That is a great question that has been answered in Jesus' parable of the wheat and the weeds (or tares). It describes a time period after the death of the last Apostle when the apostasy would flourish, choking out true Christianity. Matthew 13How can you speak that as undeniable truth when the institution of Christianity can't even agree on the truth. You have 6 major denominations.
Catholicism
Protestantism
Eastern Orthodoxy
Oriental Orthodoxy
Restorationism
The Church of the East
Each of these major denominations have major differences in the story of Christianity, they do not agree. You have Chalcedonian and Non-Chalcedonian denominations, Trinitarian and Non-Trinitarian, and etc. Christianity doesn't even have its story straight so how can you proselytize a truth that is not unified?
If a remote is the color red, it is a fact. I cannot interpret it as any color other than red and be factual. So if the Bible is fact why do all these churches disagree on it? Not only do Protestants disagree with Catholics, they even disagree with each other which is why you have Lutherans, Anglicans, Baptists, Pentacostals, Adventists, etc.
We can easily look at the Ecumenical Councils to see how the story was shaped by the will of man. I was planning on making a thread on this but you got me talking about it in this thread.
Yes but not all Christian denominations believe this and they have their own scriptures to back it. I believe it was Emperor Marican of Rome who convened an Ecumenical Council to determine the divnity of Jesus and even they didn’t agree the compromise was to say he was both God and Man at the same time to ease the critics on both sides. That is a point of contention for non-trinitarian churches because they feel it was made up by Rome for political reasons. There were so many competing thoughts at the time and the Empire decided which was canon. Mind you this was 250 years after Jesus died so the book many are reading is based on speculation from Romans on a guy that died 250 years in the past 100s of miles away.Jesus is God and He died for our sins and risen from the dead.
Yes but not all Christian denominations believe this and they have their own scriptures to back it. I believe it was Emperor Marican of Rome who convened an Ecumenical Council to determine the divnity of Jesus and even they didn’t agree the compromise was to say he was both God and Man at the same time to ease the critics on both sides. That is a point of contention for non-trinitarian churches because they feel it was made up by Rome for political reasons. There were so many competing thoughts at the time and the Empire decided which was canon. Mind you this was 250 years after Jesus died so the book many are reading is based on speculation from Romans on a guy that died 250 years in the past 100s of miles away.
The ancient scribes would count every letter to make sure that nothing had been changed. The Dead Sea Scrolls have been invaluable because they are such early transcriptions.Yes but not all Christian denominations believe this and they have their own scriptures to back it. I believe it was Emperor Marican of Rome who convened an Ecumenical Council to determine the divnity of Jesus and even they didn’t agree the compromise was to say he was both God and Man at the same time to ease the critics on both sides. That is a point of contention for non-trinitarian churches because they feel it was made up by Rome for political reasons. There were so many competing thoughts at the time and the Empire decided which was canon. Mind you this was 250 years after Jesus died so the book many are reading is based on speculation from Romans on a guy that died 250 years in the past 100s of miles away.
I hope you don't think that I could read the Mind of God, but if you ask a certain person on this board that say that they are God, you would get an answer. LOL Just kidding.Yes but not all Christian denominations believe this and they have their own scriptures to back it. I believe it was Emperor Marican of Rome who convened an Ecumenical Council to determine the divnity of Jesus and even they didn’t agree the compromise was to say he was both God and Man at the same time to ease the critics on both sides. That is a point of contention for non-trinitarian churches because they feel it was made up by Rome for political reasons. There were so many competing thoughts at the time and the Empire decided which was canon. Mind you this was 250 years after Jesus died so the book many are reading is based on speculation from Romans on a guy that died 250 years in the past 100s of miles away.
But the ecumenical councils disagree. The Roman Empire had their hands all through the bible. Did those Ancient Scribes check when Catholicism got big? How about after the Protestant Revolution in the 1500s? Most Black people who were attacked by Anglo powers are Protestant and that denomination started in Germany in the 1500s in protest to Catholicsm. Who is constantly checking to make sure it is true?The ancient scribes would count every letter to make sure that nothing had been changed. The Dead Sea Scrolls have been invaluable because they are such early transcriptions. Hebrews 4:12 describes the Bible as the word of God. Logically, wouldn't he be able to ensure that it has been accurately preserved?
This is a false statement.Seriously, to be a Christian you must believe that Jesus is God and He died and Rose from the dead. Full stop.
So, if we are talking about Christianity that's fine.
I never thought you were.Jay
Please understand that I am not even trying to convince you that you should believe. Let me state that clear and plain.
It is impossible for you to come into the understanding if God hasn't led you to do so.
No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day.
- Jesus in John 6:44
Plenty of people have studied the exegetical proofs in Scripture to understand it before Constantine was even born. The second point is that all will bend the knee to Jesus and His Lordship. You don't have to right now and that is an Act of Grace, but in the end, everyone will.This is a false statement.
If you are to be a Christian PER THE ROMAN EMPIRE you must believe that Jesus is God an He died and Rose from the dead. When the Roman Empire decided that was going to be the Canon, the African Christian churches instantly said "HELLLLL NO" and that created the major branch of Chalcedonian vs. Non-Chalcedonian Christianity.
There is some validity to their motto. You paint it in a negative light and of course, it could be taken into a negative direction but it's unlikely that one could build an army to genocide entire races of people because those people won't do what they want to do.Firstly, as I assume that you already know, that Satanists do NOT worship Satan. They look to him for inspiration. They figure that this being was in the highest ranks of God's Order and decided to leave, i.e., kicked the hell out! LOL
They praise Satan for following his own path and that they should do the same.
Their motto is "Do What Thou Wilt". Think of anything and if you want to do it, then do it. Horse dating? Approved! Beheading the first person you see in the morning? Approved. If you want a husband or wife in the 3rd grade? Approved!
Satanists worship themselves and all the desires that they can fulfill in this life and in their minds they feel like that is OK.
If you think you're going to be neutral in this spiritual war, you got another think coming. The choice that you think you are making has already been made for you.
My ego hopes you're talking about me, lol. Because I did say I am God, but I also said Jesus is God and you are God and so is everybody else. If all of us knew we were God and could access the entirety of the mind of God (us), there would be no point to this entire experience of life. In fact, there would be no experience at all because there would be nowhere to go, no one to meet and nothing to do. God would not be able to perceive or interact with anything other than God. Of course, that is actually what we're doing anyway but we are largely unconscious of it so as to have an experience of something.I hope you don't think that I could read the Mind of God, but if you ask a certain person on this board that say that they are God, you would get an answer. LOL Just kidding.
Service to self is ultimately service to God because the Self is God. Simultaneously, service to the other is also service to God because the other self is also God. Herein lies the fault of each, they both serve God but they do not see him in themselves or the other.
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