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I knew it was going to go here. usher laugh



Well reasoned response but I think there is a logical gap here that I will try to expose. You see, I think what we pushed for during the Civil Rights Movement was to be treated like human beings and be given the right to participate in society economically, socially, etc.


Transsexuals at this time already have all of the above, what they are deprived of is social acceptance so it is my opinion that comparing the two is disingenuous and belittles the true plight of Black Americans in the USA.


With that said, I don't see transsexuals or any other person as an "other", I see them as people just like me. Societies have rules and those rules govern the actions of people, and so since I see transsexuals as people, I think they should be governed by the same rules.


Now, do we need to evolve rules as society progresses, absolutely. But when we evolve the rules we shouldn't make it at the expense of others unless those others were enriched by the previous disenfranchisement.


So what does that mean in this case?


  • It means that making women have to compete against MTF transsexuals is unfair especially when the MTF athlete converted post-puberty. That's unfair.
  • It means that we shouldn't subject young girls to penises because the person with the penis feels like they are the same sex as the little girl.
  • It means that eventhough someone is transsexual, others have their right to have a preference so their unwillingness to date you isn't them being toxic.

When I say that we all need to be comfortable is that we need to have conversations to figure out how we can make transsexuals feel included in our society without making anyone feel excluded unjustly. Instead of MTF in Female spaces, why not have Female only spaces and then have everything else be Gender-neutral. That way little girls and women don't have to be subject to penises in their private space.


Instead of letting MTFs compete against Females, why not have them compete against other MTFs in their own divisions? That way there doesn't have to be a discussion about unfair advantages. So I'm not asking the LGBT community to wait, I'm asking them to not push too far to where it starts to take freedoms away from others. Women shouldn't have to be subject to men genitalia in their spaces, and we should find away to accommodate both the Females and MTFs.