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    Jay said:
    In this conversation you can actually have a discourse and compare and contrast viewpoints.
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    No you can't, most people will not even entertain the idea of discussing flat earth.
     
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    I believe that not only has our government gone into space I believe they are already setting up colonies on Mars. The bible speaks of the Edomites setting their nest amongst the stars and from there they will be brought low. The book of Obadiah. And I reiterate what I said on another post. We started astronomy. I know our enemies stole this information from us thus they are currently in the stars. There is myriad of resources up there once harnessed. The enemy is planning some Elysium shit. With that being said I believe all prior science and also the bible that states the Most High created spheres. Also when you look at planets in a good telescope on a clear country night you can see that other planets are in fact spheres.
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    Without proof, meaning you actually have visited this yourself, why do you have so much trust in your government to tell you the truth?
     
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    Nesut said:
    I think the concept of flat earth is awesome but I don’t think it properly explains the phenomena we experience as well as the globe theory does. Most people I see pushing flat earth have a pretty shitty grasp of physics.

    “If the earth rotates how come the earth doesn’t spin under a helicopter“



    When I hear that type of shit I disengage.
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    You walk on flat surfaces all the time, why would it be against physics to believe what physics teaches. I have no proof that the earth is a globe like some huge basketball. I trust my senses. Just saying. I don't feel myself moving at all when I'm seated. Everything seems perfectly still to me.
     
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    Kanu said:
    No you can't, most people will not even entertain the idea of discussing flat earth.
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    Entertain and banning are different. You do not get kicked off twitter for discussing flat earth. You get kicked off twitter for discussing the merits of the vaccine however. They are not even close to being the same.
     
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    People are just so dumb, every thing you see in the sky is virtually round , the moon and sun included.
    If you look through a telescope because I'm not sure the person who made that video ever did you will see that other planets and heavenly bodies takes a round shape and on a really clear night you could see them very well, so why would the earth be any different from them all.
     
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    TerraX1 said:
    Without proof, meaning you actually have visited this yourself, why do you have so much trust in your government to tell you the truth?
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    I don't trust our government I trust the original astronomers who this government stole their information from. I believe in the word of God that stated the most high created spheres.
    The book of Obadiah also stated this government would set its nest in the stars.
    Lastly I downloaded an app called stellarium that shows constellations as well satellites rotating around the planet in the night sky.
    Questioning everything leads to perpetual wandering there has to be an anchor of factual knowledge to hold things in place.
     
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    ProMoatBlack said:
    I believe that not only has our government gone into space I believe they are already setting up colonies on Mars. The bible speaks of the Edomites setting their nest amongst the stars and from there they will be brought low. The book of Obadiah. And I reiterate what I said on another post. We started astronomy. I know our enemies stole this information from us thus they are currently in the stars. There is myriad of resources up there once harnessed. The enemy is planning some Elysium shit. With that being said I believe all prior science and also the bible that states the Most High created spheres. Also when you look at planets in a good telescope on a clear country night you can see that other planets are in fact spheres.
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    I approve of this message. I also believe there is a reason they are suddenly starting to have hearings about aliens and UFOs. They have been preparing people for decades and they really haven't been paying attention and aligning those events with biblical prophecy. Science keeps proving the bible true and it's not being discussed at all. I keep thinking about that movie Don't Look Up. It was satire, but it was for real. Scientists and former military are talking about this openly, but America has dumbed the masses down so that we can't focus, we've been programmed to not believe spiritual things or evil, and programmed to not question or tolerate anything bad. If it's not good or makes them feel bad, they move away from it.

    Hence the reason for me constantly saying our people are not even ready for what these monsters have planned They are working in a realm they've taught us to run away from. There is a reason they hate us so and have worked to erase our history and early civilizations. CERN, HAARP and all that stuff ain't just so we can "learn" more about space. They already know what's out there. We're about to find out. If the times like Noah were a time period, this would be it.
     
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    Jay said:
    Entertain and banning are different. You do not get kicked off twitter for discussing flat earth. You get kicked off twitter for discussing the merits of the vaccine however. They are not even close to being the same.
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    How is that so? I still see people discussing vaccines on different websites and they were not banned.
    Do you question vaccines and their safety? Why would the government and health specialists lie to us about it?
     
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    ProMoatBlack said:
    I believe in the word of God that stated the most high created spheres
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    According to the scriptures the only spheres He created were the sun and the moon, not earth or stars or planets. Also according to the book of Enoch both spheres are waaay smaller than Nasa and other space agencies claim.

    ProMoatBlack said:
    The book of Obadiah also stated this government would set its nest in the stars.
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    You have to read ALL the chapter. The book of Obadiah is not talking about literal stars just using it as figurative meaning.

    Obadiah 4:

    Though you ascend as high as the eagle,
    And though you set your nest among the stars,

    From there I will bring you down,” says the Lord.

    Have you ever seen an eagle flying to another planet? I know i haven't.
    Also stars/planets are not physical bodies where you can walk on it.
    It's not talking about the government but the specific tribe of the edom/esau.
     
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    Kanu said:
    How is that so? I still see people discussing vaccines on different websites and they were not banned.
    Do you question vaccines and their safety? Why would the government and health specialists lie to us about it?
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    You’re trying to change the conversation. You said talking about Flat Earth is just like talking about the Vaccine and that’s simply not true. Flat Earth proponents do not get blocked, banned, silenced, shadow banned on social media and castigated in society. At worst flat earth proponents get called dumb not kicked off the internet, blocked from going anywhere but the grocery store or gas station, and fired from their jobs.

    Why is this important? Because you’re pretending as if there is a conspiracy against flat earthers and I disagree. You can see 3 planets right in the sky with your own eyes and they are both spheres so it makes sense to believe we are on a sphere as well. Believing in a spherical earth is a lot more simple than you all make it appear to be, it’s actually rational.
     
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    Jay said:
    We can look in the sky and see the sun and moon and they are both spheres, why would the earth be different?
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    Get the fuck out of here with logic. They are sphere but earth is "special" we flat out here.
     
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    Jay said:
    You’re trying to change the conversation. You said talking about Flat Earth is just like talking about the Vaccine and that’s simply not true. Flat Earth proponents do not get blocked, banned, silenced, shadow banned on social media and castigated in society. At worst flat earth proponents get called dumb not kicked off the internet, blocked from going anywhere but the grocery store or gas station, and fired from their jobs.

    Why is this important? Because you’re pretending as if there is a conspiracy against flat earthers and I disagree. You can see 3 planets right in the sky with your own eyes and they are both spheres so it makes sense to believe we are on a sphere as well. Believing in a spherical earth is a lot more simple than you all make it appear to be, it’s actually rational.
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    People need to see how illogical it is to ridicule those who question the official globe narrative while being the type of person who didn't take the jab because "i don't trust the government/big pharma".

    Jay said:
    Flat Earth proponents do not get blocked, banned, silenced, shadow banned on social media and castigated in society.
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    YouTube promises to stop recommending flat Earth and 9/11 truther videos

    Lots of people discover conspiracy theories on YouTube. The company says it wants to change that.
    mashable.com
     
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    People need to see how illogical it is to ridicule those who question the official globe narrative while being the type of person who didn't take the jab because "i don't trust the government/big pharma".
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    There’s a difference between not trusting a drug you cannot look at, examine, or see and not trusting people who tell you that the earth is flat and surrounded by an ice wall when basic examination of the world says otherwise. All of us can look at the moon and see it’s a sphere, look at the sun and see it’s a sphere, look at a ship go into the horizon and see it “sinking” into the horizon, etc.

    Flat Earthers get ridiculed because a lot of the issues they have with the globe earth theory stem from ignorance rather than from informed examination. It may actually be flat but flat earthers do a crap job at explaining it. The globe proponents can clearly and uniformly explain the phenomena we see while flat earthers cannot.
     
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    What would anyone have to gain by tricking us into thinking that the Earth is a sphere if it wasn't?

    If there were some kind of financial benefit then I get it, but why trick us just for the sake of doing so?

    Example when people try to build cars that run off alternate sources like solar, water, etc they usually end up mysteriously being killed in a freak accident. That's because the oil industry isn't going to lose their profits. If you do anything to touch those billions you are likely going to come up missing.

    What is gained from tricking us about if the earth is round? Who gets money or lose money based on this?

    Those who have the most to lose are the you tube conspiracy theorists. If they admit that the Earth is round then they no longer have content. Lots of these people are famous amongst that community of people who believe that. If they admit the truth that the Earth is round they lose that notoriety.

    So that's why no matter what science you tell them they will just refuse to accept it. They won't listen to any logic. It's no longer about the truth for them. It is about keeping the conspiracy going for their own profit and small amount of fame!
     
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    MR-D-ROB said:
    What would anyone have to gain by tricking us into thinking that the Earth is a sphere if it wasn't?

    If there were some kind of financial benefit then I get it, but why trick us just for the sake of doing so?

    Example when people try to build cars that run off alternate sources like solar, water, etc they usually end up mysteriously being killed in a freak accident. That's because the oil industry isn't going to lose their profits. If you do anything to touch those billions you are likely going to come up missing.

    What is gained from tricking us about if the earth is round? Who gets money or lose money based on this?

    Those who have the most to lose are the you tube conspiracy theorists. If they admit that the Earth is round then they no longer have content. Lots of these people are famous amongst that community of people who believe that. If they admit the truth that the Earth is round they lose that notoriety.

    So that's why no matter what science you tell them they will just refuse to accept it. They won't listen to any logic. It's no longer about the truth for them. It is about keeping the conspiracy going for their own profit and small amount of fame!
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    Not everything is about money, people who control money don't live the same rat race as us chasing it.

    The reason the elites/tptb came up with the globe theory is to erase the influence of the bible in our lives. Here's our cosmology according to the scriptures:




    If they thought that in schools best believe there would be not 1 atheist walking around. They also wouldn't be able to push the alien agenda since there's no "space" as we know it.
    The change happened for spiritual reasons.


    Ephesians 6:12
    For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
     
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    JerriBun said:
    Whether the Earth is flat, a globe, or hollow. It doesn't change how I go about by daily business. So I don't put too much energy into it.
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    Girl for real. Flat or round it doesn’t change these bills or my dusty boss.
     
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    MR-D-ROB said:
    What would anyone have to gain by tricking us into thinking that the Earth is a sphere if it wasn't?

    If there were some kind of financial benefit then I get it, but why trick us just for the sake of doing so?
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    I have never heard a flat earther come up with a real reason for the lie. It’s always a biblical answer that gets into a lot of bogus shit. There’s no benefit to lying about if the earth is flat or not. They always say it’s about control but they control us via cell phones and social media they don’t need to tell us the earth is a sphere to control us. The whole shit makes no sense.
     
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    View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hLPPE3_DVCw

    View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f2xMqIpXxS8&t=634s
     
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    It’s ridiculous to think the planet is flat. We have to stop giving energy to silliness
     
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    Everyone could have had it wrong. That’s a possibility. We literally see spheres in the sky girl.
     
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    Everyone could have had it wrong. That’s a possibility. We literally see spheres in the sky girl.
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    What you see, is the shape of the firmament or dome my dear.
     
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    The earth is flat. I haven't believed that theory that the earth is spherical, but had to act like I oppose when we were in school. No proof shows the earth not being flat, but let's believe everything they say. I would say not straight flat, but not spherical as they said.
     
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    The earth is flat. I haven't believed that theory that the earth is spherical, but had to act like I oppose when we were in school. No proof shows the earth not being flat, but let's believe everything they say. I would say not straight flat, but not spherical as they said.
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    View: https://twitter.com/TNTJohn1717/status/1557998590240460800?s=20&t=MPFGbEtnBKLOckhfhyMypQ
     
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    Am I to believe that "gravity" can hold this much water on the earth?
     
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    Lol whatever we are on the Flat earth folks have some legit questions that haven’t been answered. For me in 2022 NASA has the tech to send probes etc that take full frame images of Jupiter, mars, Saturn but to this day we have never seen live footage of the whole earth in full frame rotating on its axis. It’s always CGI. Heck every photo of earth is a photo composit. And no the live nasa feed doesn’t count it only shows a small part of the earth at a time we need to see the whole ball unedited and that world end the debate.
     
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    Lol whatever we are on the Flat earth folks have some legit questions that haven’t been answered. For me in 2022 NASA has the tech to send probes etc that take full frame images of Jupiter, mars, Saturn but to this day we have never seen live footage of the whole earth in full frame rotating on its axis. It’s always CGI. Heck every photo of earth is a photo composit. And no the live nasa feed doesn’t count it only shows a small part of the earth at a time we need to see the whole ball unedited and that world end the debate.
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    The moon and sun are spheres though so why wouldn’t Earth be one? There are no flat planets that we can see with the naked eye.
     
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    The moon and sun are spheres though so why wouldn’t Earth be one? There are no flat planets that we can see with the naked eye.
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    The point is we don’t have any real images of the planet we live on. Even Al Gore questioned it back in the day calling NASA out asking where are the photos? It could be a security issue. High Rez images of the whole earth would be free spy images for every other country.
     
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    The simplest proof is to go to an ocean or beach.
    Watch a boat sail away. As it disappears it will disappear from bottom to top.
    That happens on a sphere.
    If it were flat to the entire boat would remain visible and get smaller and smaller until you could no longer see it. You would see the entire boat the whole time though.

    The second scenario happens no where on Earth because it's not flat!
     
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    MR-D-ROB said:
    The simplest proof is to go to an ocean or beach.
    Watch a boat sail away. As it disappears it will disappear from bottom to top.
    That happens on a sphere.
    If it were flat to the entire boat would remain visible and get smaller and smaller until you could no longer see it. You would see the entire boat the whole time though.

    The second scenario happens no where on Earth because it's not flat!
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    Funny is with the Nikon cameras zoom the ship sailing away u can still see it. After you watch it disappear you zoom in and the ship is back in frame, watch it disappear from the zoom and zoom in again it’s there which shows the math for the curve is wrong or the earth is bigger than they tell us. I don’t think it’s flat just we ain’t getting all the real info. Similar to all the artifacts of earths true history will never be shared.
     
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    MR-D-ROB said:
    The simplest proof is to go to an ocean or beach.
    Watch a boat sail away. As it disappears it will disappear from bottom to top.
    That happens on a sphere.
    If it were flat to the entire boat would remain visible and get smaller and smaller until you could no longer see it. You would see the entire boat the whole time though.

    The second scenario happens no where on Earth because it's not flat!
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    People can crucify me all they want to, but the Earth looks like the United Nations logo and not that globe that spins around in classrooms.
     
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    MR-D-ROB said:
    The simplest proof is to go to an ocean or beach.
    Watch a boat sail away. As it disappears it will disappear from bottom to top.
    That happens on a sphere.
    If it were flat to the entire boat would remain visible and get smaller and smaller until you could no longer see it. You would see the entire boat the whole time though.

    The second scenario happens no where on Earth because it's not flat!
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    If you use binoculars, the boat comes back into view. As the boat goes further out, a telescope brings it into view yet again. There is only a certain distance a person can see without the aid of technology.
     
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    If you use binoculars, the boat comes back into view. As the boat goes further out, a telescope brings it into view yet again. There is only a certain distance a person can see without the aid of technology.
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    No matter what you use binoculars, telescope etc. the same principle will apply. The boat will disappear from bottom to top.
    What you are saying is true. The boat does come back into view with magnification.
    However as the boat goes farther out the bottom portion disappears. And it keeps disappearing from bottom up. That happens even with magnification.

    That happens on a sphere. If flat the entire boat stays in view and it just gets smaller and smaller until you can't see it anymore. Even with magnification the entire boat would disappear all at once. It wouldn't disappear from bottom up.

    Think of it sort of like an object coming over a hill!
     
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    Here's what's wrong with that video. The boat is not sailing away. It is sailing horizontally. For what I'm saying to apply the boat must be sailing directly away from you! It can't be sailing from left to right. It must be moving away from you!
     
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    educatedman23 said:
    If you use binoculars, the boat comes back into view. As the boat goes further out, a telescope brings it into view yet again. There is only a certain distance a person can see without the aid of technology.
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    But the ship is going to slide out of view as it goes over the curve. You will hit yo telescope and see only part of the top.
     
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    If you believe the earth is flat you would have to explain away lunar eclipses. No matter where you are on earth the shadow cast on the moon is circular. The only thing that cast a perfectly circular shadow from any angle is a sphere.

    If it were flat at a certain angle the shadow would appear as a flat line!

    Further proof is just looking up at the moon. No matter where you are you see the same face of the moon. On a flat earth depending on where you are you would see a different face of the moon.

    We can literally see other planets and the moon and the sun. They are all spheres. So why would the Earth be the one exception.

    Our education system is literally failing that people don't know how to think or use critical thinking!
     
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    The conspiracy itself is proof that the the Earth is a sphere.

    So it was concluded several hundred of years ago that the Earth was round. If it were actually flat and that was all a ruse that means over thousands of years this has been kept a secret by all the governments of the world.

    Every field of science would have to be in on the ruse. Geology, Physics, Astronomy, etc... Several other fields like pilots, ship captains would all have to be in on it. Not just military ships either but every Carnival cruise captain. Every person that gets a pilots license.

    Then every person that becomes a scientist would have to be indoctrinated. But at what point are they brought in on the ruse. 1st year of school, After they get a doctorates. Where is the separation point from those that know and are in vs those that are approaching and realizing the truth but they just aren't saying anything. Why wouldn't some student by now have started to be like hey wait this doesn't make sense and said something? They would be famous and probably become a millionaire.

    Every person that works with the scientist aren't saying anything. None of them have told their wife or family about it. It's been kept airtight for thousands of years with not one person speaking.

    Bill Clinton couldn't get a blow job without everyone knowing and ratting him out, but a conspiracy this big involving this many people is kept secret.

    All these scientist are being paid all this money for fields of science that don't even really exist. What's to gain financially? Some argue it is to hide God but there are tons of religion so if that's the case it didn't work.

    Think about all the people, the unimaginable amount of money paid to keep the lid on and nothing is gained. They do all of this and a few random people on Youtube blow the lid off. Wouldn't they just off those people?

    I mean look a big oil. Anybody who dares to make a car that runs off water or anything like that is no longer with us! Yeah we have electric care but ultimately fossil fuels are used in large part to generate that electricity so big oil still wins. GO outside of that and you disappear.

    That's just big oil. A entity that has kept a secret for thousands of years amongst millions of people doesn't just kill off some Youtube idiots. GTFOH
     
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    But just me on a personal level, I think flat earthers should be prevented from procreating!

     
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    MR-D-ROB said:
    Every field of science would have to be in on the ruse. Geology, Physics, Astronomy, etc... Several other fields like pilots, ship captains would all have to be in on it. Not just military ships either but every Carnival cruise captain. Every person that gets a pilots license.
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    False. That's like saying every employee in NASA knew about the details of the moon landing in 69, from the janitor to the top manager. The truth is only a few key characters are needed to keep a certain narrative going.
     
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    MR-D-ROB said:
    Here's what's wrong with that video. The boat is not sailing away. It is sailing horizontally. For what I'm saying to apply the boat must be sailing directly away from you! It can't be sailing from left to right. It must be moving away from you!
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    Wow, you're really smart!!!
     
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    When you look in the sky and see the moon and the sun what do you see? a round circle/sphere right? WHy would anyone think the Earth is flat when we literally have real life examples of how other planets and astronomical objects look directly in the sky.
     
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    False. That's like saying every employee in NASA knew about the details of the moon landing in 69, from the janitor to the top manager. The truth is only a few key characters are needed to keep a certain narrative going.
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    In this case it would require a very large number of individuals to keep it a secret.

    But ultimately the end question is why?

    Why lie about something like this? What is gained from it?

    The only thing I can see as a gain are the conspiracy theorist themselves who make money from their YouTube channels. They get to feel important. Most of the guys honestly look like losers (just my opinion). So now they get to feel like a big shot! So for them they gain notoriety and money.

    But what does the individual, government agency, or other entity that is keeping this secret gain from it financially or otherwise?

    I can't think of anything to be gained.
     
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    MR-D-ROB said:
    In this case it would require a very large number of individuals to keep it a secret.

    But ultimately the end question is why?

    Why lie about something like this? What is gained from it?

    The only thing I can see as a gain are the conspiracy theorist themselves who make money from their YouTube channels. They get to feel important. Most of the guys honestly look like losers (just my opinion). So now they get to feel like a big shot! So for them they gain notoriety and money.

    But what does the individual, government agency, or other entity that is keeping this secret gain from it financially or otherwise?

    I can't think of anything to be gained.
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    The only thing I see them doing is trying to change the truth into their twisted version.
    The same thing that the devil does, trick you into believing his version is the truth!
    He's got ALL his WS & Anti-Black imps hard at work!
    We need to wake up & see what's really going on!
     
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    Flat Earth = Flat Head.
     
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