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    Not sure what would be the purpose of this, but the BBC have commissioned a drama about the Grenfell Tragedy.
    Grenfell Tower fire is being adapted into a BBC drama

    There are still questions about the fire, namely the numbers who perished and also the conduct of the emergency services. It remains to be seen how "factual" the drama will be.
     
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    I remember watching a documentary on this incident and it was disgusting how the government failed at all levels. I believe that it was intentional because of the race of the inhabitants.
     
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    The Honorable said:
    I remember watching a documentary on this incident and it was disgusting how the government failed at all levels. I believe that it was intentional because of the race of the inhabitants.
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    Correct, the residents of that particular tower were immigrants, mainly African. This block was overcrowded.
    The cladding material used on the tower is highly flammable. Not every high-rise is covered in cladding, which makes this tragedy more egregious as people were talking about how unsafe it was BEFORE the fire.
    During the initial reporting, an African immigrant was blamed as having caused the fire by having a faulty fridge in his flat, and then running as soon as it happened. Despite there being serious questions about this, his photo was still put in the media.
    Also, the tower itself had no sprinkler systems or adequate fire escapes. All this in the borough of Kensington and Chelsea, which one of the most WEALTHIEST areas of not just London, but the UK.
     
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    More than likely insurance fraud mixed with a gentrification agenda they do stuff differently over there......sad situation.
     
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    ZxBro said:
    More than likely insurance fraud mixed with a gentrification agenda they do stuff differently over there......sad situation.
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    Terrymist said:
    Not sure what would be the purpose of this, but the BBC have commissioned a drama about the Grenfell Tragedy.
    Grenfell Tower fire is being adapted into a BBC drama

    There are still questions about the fire, namely the numbers who perished and also the conduct of the emergency services. It remains to be seen how "factual" the drama will be.
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    This is interesting. I was fascinated by this when it happened, then it just disappeared from the media.
     
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    Very plausible explanation
     
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    I remember hearing of this. So, what is happening within the Black community regarding this? Especially in London?
    Chelsea area of NYC, Manhattan is rich as well. There is an area of north Philadelphia called Kensington which is biggest open air drug market on the east coast, probably all in America. We named a lot of our places after their British counterpart (Birmingham and Leeds, Alabama, Boston, [new] York, Jersey, Lord Baltimore, Queen Charlotte, King George [Georgia]) sorry a nerd moment.

    Your projects are called 'Council Estates', right? or do I have that wrong? Are there other areas vulnerable as well? Are there any lawsuits? Is the government trying to cover anything up? Has the African community come together about it?
     
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    I wish we could put together a master plan so we can stop these folks from hurting us ever again.
     
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    RCNAL said:
    I remember hearing of this. So, what is happening within the Black community regarding this? Especially in London?
    Chelsea area of NYC, Manhattan is rich as well. There is an area of north Philadelphia called Kensington which is biggest open air drug market on the east coast, probably all in America. We named a lot of our places after their British counterpart (Birmingham and Leeds, Alabama, Boston, [new] York, Jersey, Lord Baltimore, Queen Charlotte, King George [Georgia]) sorry a nerd moment.

    Your projects are called 'Council Estates', right? or do I have that wrong? Are there other areas vulnerable as well? Are there any lawsuits? Is the government trying to cover anything up? Has the African community come together about it?
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    I'm interested in other posters' responses since I want to know what is being done.
     
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    ZxBro said:
    More than likely insurance fraud mixed with a gentrification agenda they do stuff differently over there......sad situation.
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    It is amazing how many agendas could be mixed in one. In other words, there are multiple reasons combined why.
     
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    Terrymist said:
    Correct, the residents of that particular tower were immigrants, mainly African. This block was overcrowded.
    The cladding material used on the tower is highly flammable. Not every high-rise is covered in cladding, which makes this tragedy more egregious as people were talking about how unsafe it was BEFORE the fire.
    During the initial reporting, an African immigrant was blamed as having caused the fire by having a faulty fridge in his flat, and then running as soon as it happened. Despite there being serious questions about this, his photo was still put in the media.
    Also, the tower itself had no sprinkler systems or adequate fire escapes. All this in the borough of Kensington and Chelsea, which one of the most WEALTHIEST areas of not just London, but the UK.
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    No sprinkler system or fire escapes?
     
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    RCNAL said:
    I remember hearing of this. So, what is happening within the Black community regarding this? Especially in London?
    Chelsea area of NYC, Manhattan is rich as well. There is an area of north Philadelphia called Kensington which is biggest open air drug market on the east coast, probably all in America. We named a lot of our places after their British counterpart (Birmingham and Leeds, Alabama, Boston, [new] York, Jersey, Lord Baltimore, Queen Charlotte, King George [Georgia]) sorry a nerd moment.

    Your projects are called 'Council Estates', right? or do I have that wrong? Are there other areas vulnerable as well? Are there any lawsuits? Is the government trying to cover anything up? Has the African community come together about it?
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    The Nation of Islam with Leo Muhammed showed up on the site to rally the community. There was a ton of push back on the way the fire was being reported. Fundraisers were also held. Some of the people who were made homeless were given accommodation, mainly through a number of churches.

    Council estates/housing estates would be the equivalent to the projects, that is correct.
    There was a massive outcry, the then Prime Minister Theresa May was forced to conduct a public inquiry, see the link: Homepage | Grenfell Tower Inquiry
     
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    educatedman23 said:
    No sprinkler system or fire escapes?
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    Also, the tower itself had no sprinkler systems or adequate fire escapes.
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    This gives the timeline of events, and the layout of the building: Grenfell Tower: What happened
     
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