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I respect both perspectives but I don’t it needs to be one or the other. Both viewpoints can actually coexist and we actually have to see @Kato-Emir’s mission to fruition before we can see [USER=993]blackice_ATL[/USER]. We won’t go straight from bondage to ruler, we are too far behind to make that transition. We need stability for a few decades and rebuilding before we try to run a nation. Like [USER=1]Jay[/USER] says, we can barely run a liquor store and we want to jump to a nation?