The Cookout

[Blackgravity]

Are you going to be ready when they get you (your kind) in the cross hair? Once they topple the government they will turn their sights on us. Either for extermination or try to run the slavery con again.
Stock up on kandy barz and food. I can see this being a real threat.

Retired general warns the U.S. military could back a coup after the 2024 election

Retired Maj. Gen. Paul Eaton says war-gaming and civics education could help assure that the military is better prepared for a contested election.

www.npr.org

 

[Deleted member 231]

I honestly think if it happens, it won't be that far away. Republicans will run the board after this year's mid term, and I agree with JB when he says Desantis will probably be the pick to click for the GOP. THe problem is that Hoe Biden and Kamammy got 3 more years to go, and they may not feel they can afford to wait after all the damage the Dems have done in this year alone. I remember back in 2001 after 9-11 having a feeling that things would be bad...but that was just a feeling. Actually witnessing how far things rolled back in the past 20 years for society in general has been scary. And as Dr. Claude Anderson likes to say, when white folks get a cold, Black people get the flu. I think this is where the rubber meets the road. Worst case scenario for Blacks: Argentina, Not so worst case scenario: Palestine or South Africa, Best case: small but powerful numbers like the Jews or Asians. But I'm just spitballing.

 

[Boss Hog]

We need to take this as a warning but they are soft shoeing around the issue which is that white supremacy is about to overthrow itself and that for the USA to correct the issue it has do away with everything that makes it what it is.

This is something Czharcus was saying on Twitter which is that White Supremacy will eat itself alive. We are seeing it take place in our lifetimes.

 

[Czharcus]

When Donald Trump got into office is when I recognized white supremacy was in self-destruct mode.

White supremacy is a defense mechanism. Defense mechanisms eventually attract the very thing they were created to defend against. Self inquiry reveals this. Depression is also a defense mechanism. Many times depression ends in death.

I think this is because defense mechanisms operate and are informed by myopic vision. They do not and can not account for the bigger picture.

I would not doubt a military coup in America because within the myopic view of the defense mechanism, it appears to preserve the Republic but the very act is literally the destruction of the Republic. Like depression, to save you, it kills you.

White supremacy is over the hill, it has "jumped the shark". It's dead, there is no saving it and everything white people do at this point to try to save it will prove to only have made it die quicker.

Reparations to the descendants of slaves is the only thing that I can see that will save the United States (whites have to relinquish power) because it would fundamentally change the United States by destroying white supremacy. There is no choice at this point, white people will either kill white supremacy by peacefully handing over power or by shooting themselves in the foot. Either way, the game's over.

Of course this isn't cause to let your guard down. A dying Dragon is still fucking dangerous!

 

[Jay]

Reparations to the descendants of slaves is the only thing that I can see that will save the United States (whites have to relinquish power) because it would fundamentally change the United States by destroying white supremacy. There is no choice at this point, white people will either kill white supremacy by peacefully handing over power or by shooting themselves in the foot. Either way, the game's over.

Or they will just make another cycle of white supremacy. The Americans taking this land from the British is was one of those cycles.

 

[Czharcus]

Or they will just make another cycle of white supremacy. The Americans taking this land from the British is was one of those cycles.

I would not doubt something could happen that would resemble more white supremacy. It's inconsequential because it will be weaker and shorter than the last. They aren't just fighting us, they're fighting themselves. In today's world, it is impossible to maintain for much longer. It's a dead system walking.

 

[HeffDawg]

I would not doubt something could happen that would resemble more white supremacy. It's inconsequential because it will be weaker and shorter than the last. They aren't just fighting us, they're fighting themselves. In today's world, it is impossible to maintain for much longer. It's a dead system walking.

These niggas been ruling since about 300 AD when they took over Egypt if you think the rain is going to blow away you're wrong. You had Rome that shit went defunct, half was byzantine, the other half was getting taken over by Germans, those Germans dominated created Britain, Britain conquered the world, fell off a bit, US is their child and colonizing the world. The White Supremacy potato just gets tossed around a bunch of White supremacists but the system on the subjugated is the same..

 

[Czharcus]

These niggas been ruling since about 300 AD when they took over Egypt if you think the rain is going to blow away you're wrong. You had Rome that shit went defunct, half was byzantine, the other half was getting taken over by Germans, those Germans dominated created Britain, Britain conquered the world, fell off a bit, US is their child and colonizing the world. The White Supremacy potato just gets tossed around a bunch of White supremacists but the system on the subjugated is the same..

You believe there is a possibility their rule could be permanent if we don't fight it? If we had to fight it in order for it to die, could we possibly kill something that has been in power since 300 A.D.?

 

[Deleted member 231]

You believe there is a possibility their rule could be permanent if we don't fight it? If we had to fight it in order for it to die, could we possibly kill something that has been in power since 300 A.D.?

I think this is it. Whatever we don't pass down to the remaining warrior class, will be lost. We've got to set the tone for the next 20 years. But not just for us. The whites who arent elites are just as vulnerable. If they don't fight back against the increasing draconian measures, they too will be enslaved; but will at least be above us remaining negras. We've hit the point of no return. We can either fight it or lay down. But if we lay down ain't no getting back up. These folks are tryna put us out of commision permanently....and if they take any prisoners..those prisoners will end up as slaves, Eunuchs, or f%#$ed out of existence with their genes. I remember what life was like before 9-11 and slowly everyone's rights got stripped away to the point where we are now. It feels we're heading towards another dark ages and the only way to avoid that is in engaging in a fight to the death.

 

[Jay]

I think this is it. Whatever we don't pass down to the remaining warrior class, will be lost. We've got to set the tone for the next 20 years. But not just for us. The whites who arent elites are just as vulnerable. If they don't fight back against the increasing draconian measures, they too will be enslaved; but will at least be above us remaining negras. We've hit the point of no return. We can either fight it or lay down. But if we lay down ain't no getting back up. These folks are tryna put us out of commision permanently....and if they take any prisoners..those prisoners will end up as slaves, Eunuchs, or f%#$ed out of existence with their genes. I remember what life was like before 9-11 and slowly everyone's rights got stripped away to the point where we are now. It feels we're heading towards another dark ages and the only way to avoid that is in engaging in a fight to the death.

Happy New Year folks!

 

[Czharcus]

I think this is it. Whatever we don't pass down to the remaining warrior class, will be lost. We've got to set the tone for the next 20 years. But not just for us. The whites who arent elites are just as vulnerable. If they don't fight back against the increasing draconian measures, they too will be enslaved; but will at least be above us remaining negras. We've hit the point of no return. We can either fight it or lay down. But if we lay down ain't no getting back up. These folks are tryna put us out of commision permanently....and if they take any prisoners..those prisoners will end up as slaves, Eunuchs, or f%#$ed out of existence with their genes. I remember what life was like before 9-11 and slowly everyone's rights got stripped away to the point where we are now. It feels we're heading towards another dark ages and the only way to avoid that is in engaging in a fight to the death.

I respect that and I definitely agree with some of your points.

In my spiritual/self studies, I learned that the universe is not necessarily a free for all. I mean it is but it ain't. There are laws that cannot be broken. If you go against them, you mark yourself for suffering and eventual self-destruction. White supremacy works counter to one of those laws so it's destruction was a foregone conclusion from the moment of its inception. It's just a matter of time.

Like the democracy and capitalism America's founders simultaneously built into the system. These 2 things cannot coexist forever. They are constantly in opposition. Eventually, capitalism loses. It was a foregone conclusion. Simply because democracy is more in line with the Law of the universe than capitalism.

There will be hardships and I am for whatever we can do towards the reduction of suffering, but white supremacy is dead no matter what we do.

 

[Lamont]

I respect that and I definitely agree with some of your points.

In my spiritual/self studies, I learned that the universe is not necessarily a free for all. I mean it is but it ain't. There are laws that cannot be broken. If you go against them, you mark yourself for suffering and eventual self-destruction. White supremacy works counter to one of those laws so it's destruction was a foregone conclusion from the moment of its inception. It's just a matter of time.

Like the democracy and capitalism America's founders simultaneously built into the system. These 2 things cannot coexist forever. They are constantly in opposition. Eventually, capitalism loses. It was a foregone conclusion. Simply because democracy is more in line with the Law of the universe than capitalism.

There will be hardships and I am for whatever we can do towards the reduction of suffering, but white supremacy is dead no matter what we do.

No offense but you are the church crowd in a "new age spirituality" packaging. Much like the Civil Rights Generation you believe that a supernatural force is going to bring an end to the peril. The only difference between you and the "fossils" is that you replace the word "Jesus" with obfuscatory phrases such as "laws of the universe", "spiritual forces", etc.

The death of White Supremacy is a foregone conclusion because someone will topple it which is the case for every other empire. But it took a group of people who were unafraid and challenged the powers that be, not people that sat around saying that some supernatural force was going to do the work for them.

Kemet fell at the hands of men, Rome fell at then hands of men, the Manden Kurufaba fell at the hands of men but we're supposed to believe that White Supremacy will meet some other fate? Nope. I cannot make any personal characterizations but many like to push these narratives as it allows them to sit on their hands and do nothing.

Pontification in lieu of work.

 

[Czharcus]

No offense but you are the church crowd in a "new age spirituality" packaging. Much like the Civil Rights Generation you believe that a supernatural force is going to bring an end to the peril. The only difference between you and the "fossils" is that you replace the word "Jesus" with obfuscatory phrases such as "laws of the universe", "spiritual forces", etc.

The death of White Supremacy is a foregone conclusion because someone will topple it which is the case for every other empire. But it took a group of people who were unafraid and challenged the powers that be, not people that sat around saying that some supernatural force was going to do the work for them.

Kemet fell at the hands of men, Rome fell at then hands of men, the Manden Kurufaba fell at the hands of men but we're supposed to believe that White Supremacy will meet some other fate? Nope. I cannot make any personal characterizations but many like to push these narratives as it allows them to sit on their hands and do nothing.

Pontification in lieu of work.

No offense taken.

I likely don't speak of anything "supernatural." To label something supernatural means that I know everything that is natural and no one on earth has that knowledge.

Another difference between me and the "fossils" might be the awareness of the progression of consciousness (Spiral Dynamics, etc.) but if we come to the same conclusion…

Those empires may have fell "at the hands of men" but did they fall solely because of the hands of those men? Men are part of the universe, how do we know they were acting separate from it? Do we know they were working in opposition to or not in concert with something the universe was already doing and they were given the credit simply because they were the last recognizable Domino?

Does pushing these narratives really mean people are sitting on their hands and doing nothing or do they recognize they cannot act separate from the universe because they are part of it which actually empowers everything they do?

 

[Lamont]

You say this:

I likely don't speak of anything "supernatural."

…and in the same post say this:

Those empires may have fell "at the hands of men" but did they fall solely because of the hands of those men? Men are part of the universe, how do we know they were acting separate from it? Do we know they were working in opposition to or not in concert with something the universe was already doing

Once again you’re suggestion an external force or motivation that cannot be verified to the actions of these men in order to give your argument validate your argument.

That’s the difference between your argument and mine. I can point to examples unrelated to me, untouched, unscathed to justify my viewpoint.

When you did the same, you had to suggest mysticism because the facts alone prove your argument to be mere pontification.

You look at objective reality through a subjective lens.

Does pushing these narratives really mean people are sitting on their hands and doing nothing or do they recognize they cannot act separate from the universe because they are part of it which actually empowers everything they do?

Yes. Sitting around pontificating and putting the responsibility for your assignment on the universe is the same as Christianity. It has not helped Black America at all, it’s wishful thinking in the midst of a murderer.

 

[Czharcus]

Once again you’re suggestion an external force or motivation that cannot be verified to the actions of these men in order to give your argument validate your argument.

That’s the difference between your argument and mine. I can point to examples unrelated to me, untouched, unscathed to justify my viewpoint.

I'm not suggesting an outside force (since man is part of the universe and the universe is the only thing there is, there is no outside force) but rather acknowledging what the men did isn't the only thing that contributed to the toppling of those empires. It's rather just the story we wish to tell. I don't think there's anything wrong with that, BTW, as long as we recognize it as what it is.

I believe the difference in our arguments is one of us believes man is a separate entity from the universe he is, and can only ever be, within. But it is he separate from the universe if he cannot separate himself from the universe?

When you did the same, you had to suggest mysticism because the facts alone prove your argument to be mere pontification.

You look at objective reality through a subjective lens.

It is true that I do not have specific facts about these specific chains of events. Even if I was present through it all, I would not know what facts to attribute to being part of the domino effect.

The only thing I have to backup my argument is YOUR personal experience. You can't look back on your life and honesty and say you are where you are only because of precise strategic calculations you've made from birth or even from last week.

Virtually all of us look at objective reality through a subjective lens simply because we believe we don't. Many things we believe are beyond questioning so we've never actually questioned them beyond surface level. How would we know if something is objective if we've never adequately questioned it?

Yes. Sitting around pontificating and putting the responsibility for your assignment on the universe is the same as Christianity. It has not helped Black America at all, it’s wishful thinking in the midst of a murderer.

I believe it helps the black community to recognize we are a part of something larger than our separate selves so that we learn how to work in concert with it. It gives us the assignment, we don't give it to ourselves. The assignment it gives doesn't feel like work because we want to do it so in essence, the universe gives us the assignment, provides us with what we need to do it then does it for us.

This is the story of those men toppling empires. There's so much of it that never gets told.

 

[Czharcus]

Lamont Thanks for the engaging conversation.

 

[Deleted member 231]

"praise the lord and pass the ammunition."

 

[Czharcus]

"praise the lord and pass the ammunition."

I wasn't too familiar so I googled that phrase and found an old song. The irony in it is the 2nd part of the phrase proves they have no idea what the 1st part even means.

Translated, it says, "praise the Lord and let's prepare to defend against/kill it so we keep the freedom it gave to us."

LOL, it's pure egoic propaganda written by someone who doesn't even know of/believe in the thing he/she claims to praise.

 

[Lamont]

Lamont Thanks for the engaging conversation.

Of course. Pray and pass the ammo.