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i claim both sides but black first, but that didnt seem appropriate in the context. I cannot get into why I think the conversation can change and the factors of that because i was scolded before. If Jay allows it, I think it would be cool if we discuss it on a different thread. I want to be very clear though I do not support chinese westeners. I think they bought into this insane right wing white agenda and it disgusts me. My hope for us in the mainland and what I see there. I hope if chinese westeners ever do do anything worth talking about we can objectively look at that as well. Because I do believe white people are being revealed. The mask is falling off and the other races are starting to see what the black race has always known.