Could you imagine if you or I, flew a drone over the exact same airspace that the Chinese spy balloon is in, we'd have every 3 letter agency crawling in every one of our orifices and life, and we'd be sitting in jail for god knows how long!
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The issue is that America only respect those that can challenge it. China is a significant threat to the USA and so it has to handle these things the right way.
The game is changing...we are now in a multi-polar war. Wait til BRICS drops their currency....if you ain't on what ProMoatBlack and Mrs. BLACKRADICAL are on it's going to be rough times.
Yes sir. Self Sufficiency is everything. It will be the foundation of our new society. We will receive all the promises written in the scripts you just have to make the initial leap of faith. Find some land put a house on it and get a garden and livestock. We starting with chickens. Thanks for the shout out brother.
The USA think it’s baiting Russia into a never ending war in Ukraine but it looks like the reverse is happening. I think the rest of the world is going to bait the US into wars on multiple fronts but before they do it they will de-dollarize. The US will lose its world reserve currency standing, it will be economically weakened, and China make a move on Taiwan. China said that the issue with Taiwan will be solved in their lifetime and their leaders are in their 50’s and 60’s. So it’s going to get ugly soon.
If this is indeed true it is definitely a shift in the order of things in the world. I just cannot see why the US is letting fly over the country other than being afraid of the consequences.
Read an article a week ago that said a US general believes we will be at war with China by 2025. Then yesterday cnn reported that the US is establishing bases in the Philippines in order to act quickly in Taiwan. US and China are already at war. This is just the positioning stage before they actually start shooting at each other.
The shooting war with China will likely be quick & bloody. First, their will be a huge sea invasion on the beaches of Taiwan on a scale we have never seen before in world history. After that initial shock, the Chinese will be deep shit.
Once the U.S. military destroys their deep water Navy, it's over for the Chinese. By invading Taiwan, the Chinese Communist regime would effectively be commiting suicide and violent regime change would surely follow soon after all the U.N. imposed economic sanctions destroys thier economic system. China would cease to any threat to be any first world countries. Also, the Communist's problems with its neighbor India and the rebels hiding in Tibet should not be understated as well.....they would surely seize on this and take advantage to gain territory.
After that, prep for the U.S. economy to dip until manufacturing makes its way back to U.S. shores.....meaning higher prices on all goods and services.
All of this is an opportunity for us as Black Americans btw. We could shove our reparations agenda down thier throats and make them sit at the table and bargain. War or not, this Saber rattling is a win for the U.S. The global socioeconomic status quo will have to re-written and we can make sure we have a huge say.
P.S. NORAD probably has known about these silly balloons for years. Nothing about this news "story" passes the smell tastes. Remember wars and RUMORS of wars are good for business.
Once the U.S. military destroys their deep water Navy, it's over for the Chinese. By invading Taiwan, the Chinese Communist regime would effectively be commiting suicide and violent regime change would surely follow soon after all the U.N. imposed economic sanctions destroys thier economic system. China would cease to any threat to be any first world countries. Also, the Communist's problems with its neighbor India and the rebels hiding in Tibet should not be understated as well.....they would surely seize on this and take advantage to gain territory.
After that, prep for the U.S. economy to dip until manufacturing makes its way back to U.S. shores.....meaning higher prices on all goods and services.
All of this is an opportunity for us as Black Americans btw. We could shove our reparations agenda down thier throats and make them sit at the table and bargain. War or not, this Saber rattling is a win for the U.S. The global socioeconomic status quo will have to re-written and we can make sure we have a huge say.
P.S. NORAD probably has known about these silly balloons for years. Nothing about this news "story" passes the smell tastes. Remember wars and RUMORS of wars are good for business.
I don’t agree with this, it won’t be that easy. The USA couldn’t even stabilize Afghanistan but they are going to bulldoze through China? We already had a glimpse of this during the Korean War and it wasn’t a cakewalk for the USA.
If the USA gets into that war it’s going going to be going up against enemies who can engage in full scale war…when was the last time the US been a war at that level?
I don’t doubt that the US Military is stronger than China on paper but if US goes over there the Chinese are going to be fighting for their lives and that’s going to give them a different resolve that the YS Troops won’t have.
You combine in the fact that the world is moving away from the dollar system and Saudi Arabia is getting friendly with China it ain’t gonna go how most people think.
I believe if the USA goes after China that will be when we see the non-NATO world team up against the US and it’s pawns.
We are already seeing the chess pieces being moved in real time. OPEC said screw the US and lowered petroleum output, Saudi Arabia is done trading its oil for worthless dollars, BRICS is trying to usher in a currency backed by natural resources.
China may come out that thang a winner.
I doubt it. Rather the war be a long slug fest, or short stint, China will be at a disadvantage in most operational aspects. Remember, the U.S. won't be invading mainland China, thats not the mission objective. If we were, you would right and on the money. This will be a U.S. Navy heavy war (Primarily on the high seas). This war will be in and around Taiwan and the South China Sea (1st and 2nd Barrier Islands). Logistically China doesn't have the assets to project Naval power very fair (Fuel/Oilers/long range surface assets). They will be forced to stay close to their shoreline.
Nuclear powered verses Diesel powered assets is no contest in modern sea warfare. One advantage the Chinese do have is in its medium range surface-to-surface missiles. Thousands of U.S. Navy sailors will die initially, but once the Navy dials in on them, it's over.
If the Taiwan military can at least slow the Chinese invasion and not allow them to break out of thier beach heads.....it over once the U.S. land forces arrive. Even if the Chinese occupy most of Tiawan....well welcome to the Naval blockade. The Chinese troops will starve to death until the Americans decide when to launch thier own D-Day invasion.
Also keep in mind that no country has engaged in Big Navy, Big Ocean Combat since the U.S. and Japan in Pacific Theatre in WWII. This will be new and uncharted territory for the Chinese Navy. Btw....Japan will be our Allies in this one along with other 1st world countries.
Everything you’re saying sounds really good and convincing but that’s just how Operation Barbarossa sounded when they was popping shit in Berlin. I don’t think anyone can f with the US military on paper but in actual combat we’ve seen the US take L’s multiple times. When they stole Russia’s dollars over the Ukraine war the US officially screwed itself and now the world is shaping up to be independent of US hegemony.
If that war pops off the US is going to be in tough shit because China and its allies will economically attack and start dumping dollars which will lead to hyperinflation here. You think Americans gonna give a shit about some China with $11/gal gas and $10 eggs? I honestly don‘t think it will be clean cut and if the US survived it, it won’t come out as Rome, it’ll come out more like Byzantine.
I can agree with that. There will be loses (sunken vessels) and the American death toll will be much higher then the two Iraq wars. Our economy will be impacted for sure, without a doubt. That's said, we must remember that the U.S. and China are married economically. The damage to China's economy will be far worse for sure. Long story short, we can sustain the war effort for much longer....if needed. Political unrest within China, will be just as threatening to the Communist Party as it will be here. I'd venture to say it will be worse over there due to groups fighting for "democracy".
Everything you’re saying sounds really good and convincing but that’s just how Operation Barbarossa sounded when they was popping shit in Berlin. I don’t think anyone can f with the US military on paper but in actual combat we’ve seen the US take L’s multiple times. When they stole Russia’s dollars over the Ukraine war the US officially screwed itself and now the world is shaping up to be independent of US hegemony.
If that war pops off the US is going to be in tough shit because China and its allies will economically attack and start dumping dollars which will lead to hyperinflation here. You think Americans gonna give a shit about some China with $11/gal gas and $10 eggs? I honestly don‘t think it will be clean cut and if the US survived it, it won’t come out as Rome, it’ll come out more like Byzantine.
Because we can bring the industrial plants and jobs back here, the economic issues wont be as severe here and after the U.S. flips the on switch, the war will be completely over. China is an exporting country, but they get ALOT of raw material from us and other countries. They mainly export finished products, manufactured at low prices. Add to that China is predicted to face a labor shortages within the next 50 years due to national policies and low birth rates. China is in-between an rock and a hard place right now. They have a small window in which they can credibility threaten to invade Tiawan. In short, China's status as a so-called "world power" is mostly artificial when you really look at it. They only have huge amounts of cheap labor, which is an advantage they are quickly losing.
There is a reason China is tooling around in Africa and buying up leases. They are trying to become less U.S. and 1st world dependent. China won't have as many Allies as you think if they cross the U.S. and invade Tiawan.....
This won't be Iraqi Freedom or Afghanistan or Vietnam. Those were asystemical (Guerilla) warfare situations and insurgencies (so-called "terrorism"). A war with China will be conventional warfare for the most part. Sort of like the First Gulf War with Iraq (Desert Storm), except it will mostly occur be on the high seas. Invading China would be folly, and I doubt the White Supremacists are that stupid because then you would create Afghanistan on a much larger scale.
We should be focused on what happens after the bombs stop dropping and set ourselves up to take advantage Geopolitically. The U.S. will be much more vulnerable internationally, and less focused on the Globalization. After our economy dips, it will inevitably start to hum again once its rearranged. We should ensure we are situated in a position where we can rake in the dough....as a group. Go fight your war.....We'll make your paper and plastic for you....at a price though.
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My view is there will never be a shooting war with China. America won't fight a country with nukes. Never has. In fact, the reason why we didn't use the bomb in North Korea was because Russia said if we did, they'd drop one on Seoul and if that doesn't work, Tokyo, which it had a war with 50 years before (Russo-Japanese war).
China is more committed to a war than America is. America don't want that smoke. The government will talk sh*t but the only thing America will do if, say, China physically tries to take Taiwan is to get the rest of the world to go along (and it will) with a full economic boycott but the USA is not going to fire a shot. The closest it will come is put carriers around Taiwan but if it looks like there is going to be an exchange of fire, it won't escalate much more than a few non missile shots....at most. Guns. I'm not even sure it will even go that far.
Again, the US will not directly fight a nuclear power. The only time it came close to it was Cuban Missile crisis. But since then no.
China is more committed to a war than America is. America don't want that smoke. The government will talk sh*t but the only thing America will do if, say, China physically tries to take Taiwan is to get the rest of the world to go along (and it will) with a full economic boycott but the USA is not going to fire a shot. The closest it will come is put carriers around Taiwan but if it looks like there is going to be an exchange of fire, it won't escalate much more than a few non missile shots....at most. Guns. I'm not even sure it will even go that far.
Again, the US will not directly fight a nuclear power. The only time it came close to it was Cuban Missile crisis. But since then no.
So.....they wont shoot them down huh? This is where the mighty US stands? The US IS and will forever be Chinas little bitch. Scared to death of their #SilkwormMissle that kills Carriers, scared to death of their new subs that make our largest sub look like grains of broken rice.
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Hitler was on his way to bring K to her knees, then the fool started using those Benzos and reneged on the truce with Russia. That was the start of his end.
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China has a very small navy compared to ours actually but what they do have they have armed well. Their navy is concerned with only one thing. Making the sea and ocean in Asia theirs. And they are doing a good job at it by claiming territorial waters no where close to China but who is gonna stop them? No one there can stop China militarily. And the countries affected have China has their biggest trading partner.
I am sorry but why did the state not shoot it down? Screw what the military or Biden thinks. I know if I caught some sort of drone or something flying over my property, that MF'er is getting shot the hell down.
China has a "larger" Navy on paper. Most of the vessels they count are actually fishing boats and so-called "Auxiliary" vessels. The main difference between the Chinese and U.S. is what you mentioned above.
China's Naval strategy is protect their territorial waters. They are not capable of projection of power outside of their region. What they define as their territorial waters is debatable. They can easily kick around other countries in Southeast Asia with the Navy they have now.
That all stops in a shooting war with the U.S. Don't believe the White Media propaganda about the poor, weak undersized U.S. Navy........ especially when the U.S. Navy Officers/Officials get on TV and hypes up a threat from China. Remember, their audience is Congress.....they gotta justify that budget increase they requested...it's all politics. The military cried wolf about Iraq before the 1st Gulf War regarding Iraqs Intergreted Air Defense System that was supposed to be so......complex and dangerous. They wrecked that shit the first night of the Gulf War and Saddam was BBQ Chicken afterwards.
There are alot ppl (experts) that have been selling wolf tickets regarding China for years. Alot of it is due to money and budget. Without China's "dangerous threat", Congress would look at the Navy's budget and think....maybe we can trim the fat here..... Defense Contractors would lose out on Billiions. The Navy would have to downsize and wield less influence. In military circles, this is unimaginable.
Same for the Cold War regarding the Soviets mythical ICBM "Missile Gap" advantage. It was all hogwash and lies and everyone was in on it.
So here's the hard truth. Alot of ppl have been out here lying to the public and ginning up fear to make a living by keeping a healthy cut of the U.S. budget.
As a former military guy, I understand a tiny bit of paranoia is healthy and keeps you on your toes, but Chinese frigates and corvettes aren't fooling me. If the Chinese Navy is unable to project its power, they will either be running for there lives or getting sunk at their refueling dock. Again, I state this, nuclear powered ship don't require refueling at sea. Diesel powered ships do and that's an absolute disadvantage. If I'm a U.S. Admiral, I could cripple the Chinese fleet simply by targeting their fuel supply and refueling ships. From there it's an all out turkey shoot. The pentagon nows this, the Navy knows, CONGRESS knows this....this is all a game. It's theater folks.
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