I agree. They created a holiday for every religion to make sure everyone's spending $$$ and participating in the ritual around Nimrod's birthday.Nope I never saw the value in it. I take blackice_ATL approach on Kwanzaa. It‘s another way to celebrate a white man’s pagan holiday.
Kwanzaa was created by an agent who helped destabilize the Black Panthers.
The rivalry came to a climax during 1969, with a series of armed confrontations and retaliatory shootings that left four Panthers dead, and more injured on both sides. A memorandum of the Los Angeles field office of the FBI dated May 26, 1970, confirmed that the surge of conflict suited their objectives and more would be encouraged:
According to Louis Tackwood, a former informant with the Los Angeles Police Department's Criminal Conspiracies Section and author of The Glass House Tapes, Ronald Karenga was knowingly provided financial, arms, and other support by LAPD, with Tackwood as liaison, for US operations against the Black Panthers. Karenga enjoyed a level of trust among figures in government, including LAPD Chief Thomas Reddin and California Governor Ronald Reagan.[17"It is intended that US, Inc. will be discreetly and appropriately advised of the time and locations of BPP activities in order that the two organizations might be brought together and thus grant nature the opportunity to take her due course."[17]
You from Philly?My childhood was filled with Kwanzaa celebrations, but not so much in my adult life. I do appreciate the concept of Kwanzaa but celebrating it is not that important any more.
No, I'm not from Philly. Never been there.You from Philly?
Ok, reason I asked is its big there. Only city I know that got a parade for it. I think the guy who introduced it taught a university there (Temple U) but not 100 percent sure.No, I'm not from Philly. Never been there.
Hmm , thanks for pointing that out Bro. I'll do more research.Kwanzaa was created by an agent who helped destabilize the Black Panthers.
Wow, I didn't know that. That's hugeOk, reason I asked is its big there. Only city I know that got a parade for it. I think the guy who introduced it taught a university there (Temple U) but not 100 percent sure.
Facts. ✊🏿I don't celebrate it but I big up anything that has black people coming together in unity. Don't matter what it is as long as its unifying.
Hmm, .. I see. Surface level, looks like he did to create trust , then turned. Smh
We have had community Kwanzaa celebrations, but I don't recall any parades. I was mostly exposed to small gatherings of family and friends.Ok, reason I asked is its big there. Only city I know that got a parade for it. I think the guy who introduced it taught a university there (Temple U) but not 100 percent sure.
Big facts Sis. Holidays, one of the biggest economic drains weighing on us. Maybe the placement (date) was wrong, but I understand why it was done - to give us an alternative to the pagan holiday preceding ... Instead of monetary material, maybe acts of love can be substituted ... Salute ✊🏿I agree. They created a holiday for every religion to make sure everyone's spending $$$ and participating in the ritual around Nimrod's birthday.
Same here. Kwanzaa was a much bigger deal when I was growing up than it is now.My childhood was filled with Kwanzaa celebrations, but not so much in my adult life. I do appreciate the concept of Kwanzaa but celebrating it is not that important any more.
Fuck Ron Karenga. Excuse my language. I used to celebrate it before I knew he was a sellout. Now, I utilize the principles of Kwanzaa everyday. And I make sure every person I know who wants to celebrate it that he was a sellout for this system for the reason you said.Kwanzaa was created by an agent who helped destabilize the Black Panthers.
What do you think happened to stop this? Is it that people realized that his intentions were not sincere and that he was an agent of this system?Same here. Kwanzaa was a much bigger deal when I was growing up than it is now.
There used to be Kwanzaa celebrations and ceremonies all around town; but nowadays, not so much.
I totally understand why you say this. We need positivity as much as we can get it.Okay, he's not connected to Philly but my google search said they have had Kwanzaa celebrations/observance going back to as early as 1969.
Anyway, as I said, if it brings black people together in peace and harmony, I am for it.
I'm not sure; but if I had to speculate, I could think of some reasons:What do you think happened to stop this?
Definitely not. Kwanzaa isn't a celebration of Maulana Karenga, it's a cultural event. The average person probably doesn't even know who he is.Is it that people realized that his intentions were not sincere and that he was an agent of this system?
There is so much pagan BS in western culture now it is insane. Just look at what trends when it comes to teens and young women. It is all crystals, horoscopes, hippie symbolism... It is all nonsense.Nope I never saw the value in it. I take blackice_ATL approach on Kwanzaa. It‘s another way to celebrate a white man’s pagan holiday.
My man’s came right across the bow no sugar coating. I’m witchu too. When I heard the police was giving that nigga money and guns to attack the Panthers I couldn’t even look at him or his holiday the same.Fuck Ron Karenga. Excuse my language. I used to celebrate it before I knew he was a sellout. Now, I utilize the principles of Kwanzaa everyday. And I make sure every person I know who wants to celebrate it that he was a sellout for this system for the reason you said.
I remember they used to teach Kwanzaa in school as well. I don’t know if that’s the case any longer. My son doesn’t talk about it.I'm not sure; but if I had to speculate, I could think of some reasons:
- Gentrification - fewer Black people in an area would mean fewer people celebrating Kwanzaa in that area.
- Changing attitudes towards Pan-Africanism
- A rise in the celebration of other cultural/religious holidays
- COVID inhibited people's ability to congregate
Definitely not. Kwanzaa isn't a celebration of Maulana Karenga, it's a cultural event. The average person probably doesn't even know who he is.
I really hope his grave gets pissed on after he dies.
I really hope his grave gets pissed on after he dies.
Yeah, I really didn't know. We all should utilize them, that we what I was trying to get at ... Salute !Fuck Ron Karenga. Excuse my language. I used to celebrate it before I knew he was a sellout. Now, I utilize the principles of Kwanzaa everyday. And I make sure every person I know who wants to celebrate it that he was a sellout for this system for the reason you said.
True. Yeah, everybody is caught up in it. You start to feel like a hamster, just running on a wheel, playing the cog role ... Gotta support the system today. It's terribleThere is so much pagan BS in western culture now it is insane. Just look at what trends when it comes to teens and young women. It is all crystals, horoscopes, hippie symbolism... It is all nonsense.
At this point, I celebrate mothers/fathers day, birthdays, and Christmas. Christmas is ONLY celebrated as a family gathering. If you look into the backdrop, even that is pagan as well.
Now that's what we need now ...I remember they used to teach Kwanzaa in school as well. I don’t know if that’s the case any longer. My son doesn’t talk about it.
Everything is fueled by greed, function, or both. Either they want to sell your something, they want you to believe in something or both. That is the state of the market in America.True. Yeah, everybody is caught up in it. You start to feel like a hamster, just running on a wheel, playing the cog role ... Gotta support the system today. It's terrible
- they need a 'This is America' meme :)Everything is fueled by greed, function, or both. Either they want to sell your something, they want you to believe in something or both. That is the state of the market in America.
I don't think they ever taught us about Kwanzaa in school if I remember correctly. I doubt they're teaching it these days.I remember they used to teach Kwanzaa in school as well. I don’t know if that’s the case any longer. My son doesn’t talk about it.
Does your country have a holiday that's similar to Kwanzaa?If you know the real history behind Kwanzaa, you will not value it that much. It's not a celebration that I'm willing to take part it because I it's not truly for Black's.
It used to be a beautiful celebration, back in the early 70's & 80's. Then, we ALL separated & began killing each other, no more village, only chaos! 😪Does your country have a holiday that's similar to Kwanzaa?
Don't forget Wicca, certain witchcraft, stones, yoni eggs, MBTI personalities, pronouns, edgy atheism, LGBT rainbow symbolism, etc.There is so much pagan BS in western culture now it is insane. Just look at what trends when it comes to teens and young women. It is all crystals, horoscopes, hippie symbolism... It is all nonsense.
At this point, I celebrate mothers/fathers day, birthdays, and Christmas. Christmas is ONLY celebrated as a family gathering. If you look into the backdrop, even that is pagan as well.
That was very tame compared to what I really want to say about him, that demon racist rapist Timothy Haslett that tortured and murdered Black women, and many other anti-Black racists and traitors.
Shit you can’t say in Facebook for $400 Alex.
I remember them teaching more about Hanukkah while only mentioning Kwanzaa.Nah, not really. My family mostly celebrated Christmas and Easter, Christian holidays pretty much. We had an uncle who was into Kwanzaa, but most of my family kinda ignored it or just were never interested in celebrating it.
As well, it always felt like no one celebrated it. It may be because it's still kinda a new holiday, especially since it first started in the 60s.
I don't think they ever taught us about Kwanzaa in school if I remember correctly. I doubt they're teaching it these days.
It's only for the likes of Kamala Harris to show how "Black" they are by claiming that they chow down Cajun collard greens and spicy Popeye's chicken sandwiches while listening to Tupac and smoking ganja during Kwanzaa. While their zaddies and haggard Susans dress in kente cloth and wear kufis.If you know the real history behind Kwanzaa, you will not value it that much. It's not a celebration that I'm willing to take part it because I it's not truly for Black's.
My children were in Muslem school when they were preschool age, then the government shut ALL the schools down. They learned & enjoyed Muslem celebrated holidays.I remember them teaching more about Hanukkah while only mentioning Kwanzaa.
Why did the government shut them down? Did they fear that the children of those schools would later become part of the Nation of Islam?My children were in Muslem school when they were preschool age, then the government shut ALL the schools down. They learned & enjoyed Muslem celebrated holidays.
I remember Kwanza celebrations back when I was a kid. Big backyard BBQ feast, and music. Mountain of soul food.Almost time :) We all need to get recentered on the goal, strategize, and come back to the one ...
Seriously, Kwanza may be our one of many tools to help unify us ...
That & our children would be highly intelligent. Malcolm X, Huey P. Newton, etc. All of Minister Farrakhan's children are doctors & lawyers.Why did the government shut them down? Did they fear that the children of those schools would later become part of the Nation of Islam?
It has all merged. I can't tell you how many white women in their 20s I have come across who claim to be witches. Back in the day, these morons would be hung.Don't forget Wicca, certain witchcraft, stones, yoni eggs, MBTI personalities, pronouns, edgy atheism, LGBT rainbow symbolism, etc.
Haha everyone has all these sophisticated answers— I don’t celebrate it anymore, but when I did, it was nice just because of the big family/friends get together. I can hardly remember happier times.Fuck Ron Karenga. Excuse my language. I used to celebrate it before I knew he was a sellout. Now, I utilize the principles of Kwanzaa everyday. And I make sure every person I know who wants to celebrate it that he was a sellout for this system for the reason you said.
If you think about, they are now beginning to self-identify as something that they were all along: witches. I can't wait for the day these white males and white females and their white adjacents begin self-identifying as demons so that there aren't any more false pretenses and more Black people can peak and wake up from the coon spell they put on us.It has all merged. I can't tell you how many white women in their 20s I have come across who claim to be witches. Back in the day, these morons would be hung.
And burned.It has all merged. I can't tell you how many white women in their 20s I have come across who claim to be witches. Back in the day, these morons would be hung.
It is already happening on TikTok. There are people who identify as demons. They use the pronouns "Demon" and "Demonself". I am not even joking. My friend was showing me a vid of this last week.If you think about, they are now beginning to self-identify as something that they were all along: witches. I can't wait for the day these white males and white females and their white adjacents begin self-identifying as demons so that there aren't any more false pretenses and more Black people can peak and wake up from the coon spell they put on us.
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