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Deleted member 1946 · 3/16/23

ZxBro said:
I'll tell people now I'm on Homeland Security 's watchlist since 2012 ......so I know they watch me and I'm careful about what I say online the reason I'm on their watchlist me and a few Brothers ran some what they called "radical" Facebook groups back in the day. Never been arrested or pulled in for questioning in my life but definitely got that letter putting me on the "No Fly List" just saying if they watching me they're watching us. Fuck'em I'm a do what I do they'll NEVER shut me up. ✊🏿

I am glad you mentioned this because it shows you are real. I do know if we don't have the right things in place, they will eventually silence all of us if we speak a bad word about them. That's why so many Chinese folks leave their country. They can't deal with the severe lack of freedom from the Communist party. I'm not saying we have a huge amount of freedom here, but we do have more than them in terms of things we can say. But, of course, the USA does have a watchlist.

Deleted member 1946 · 3/16/23

ZxBro said:
The problem is you have people that look like us willing to betray us at the drop of a dime evidenced by any of our icons that were murdered......so EVERYONE'S PAPERWORK NEEDS TO BE CHECKED AND RECHECKED!

1 million percent correct. And then rechecked yet again.

Deleted member 1946 · 3/16/23

josiah starr said:
This is a good read if your interested in covert action and how the CIA pretty much runs the country.

I will check into it.

Deleted member 1946 · 3/16/23

josiah starr said:
This is a good read if your interested in covert action and how the CIA pretty much runs the country.

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I'm on Amazon now.

Deleted member 1946 · 3/16/23

Jay said:
But delineating doesn't solve the problem because our biggest sellouts are of our same lineage and there's more of them than Black immigrants.

fully agree

Deleted member 1946 · 3/16/23

ZxBro said:
Well he should have been shot on site.

I wonder how much time went by before they realized he was a spy and was sabotaging him?

Deleted member 1946 · 3/16/23

BlackWarGod said:
We’ll never know until documents get declassified decades later but what we do know is that the dominant society is watching and infiltrating the movement so that they can benefit regardless of the outcome as they always do. Whether it’s an Internet personality probably, but the overall sentiment can be driven without an agent nowadays. Snowden and the Twitter files exposed that, and so my take is to thoroughly assess all avenues to obtaining reparations.

They are definitely watching.

GwynShivers · 3/16/23

educatedman23 said:
Yep. So agree. And quite naturally, the system will eventually find out what we are doing and make threats to us.

We've got to have protection in place, aerial & ground. Lots of Black men & women are military. We just need to purchase what we need to protect our properties & ourselves.

Deleted member 1946 · 3/16/23

BlackWarGod said:
We’ll never know until documents get declassified decades later but what we do know is that the dominant society is watching and infiltrating the movement so that they can benefit regardless of the outcome as they always do. Whether it’s an Internet personality probably, but the overall sentiment can be driven without an agent nowadays. Snowden and the Twitter files exposed that, and so my take is to thoroughly assess all avenues to obtaining reparations.

Yep. We need to infiltrate what they are doing.

Deleted member 1946 · 3/16/23

The Honorable said:
I wanted to see if you had the disposition to question everyone. We don’t truly know who is or isn’t an agent because we do not have the intelligence apparatus partaking in the research.

You have a great point. We need to use some of the same research practices these R1 Research universities use.

Deleted member 1946 · 3/16/23

BlackWarGod said:
I misspoke, I definitely think some Internet personalities are agents. When I said it’s not Tariq or any Internet personality that was concerning who I specifically think is an agent, and that person isn’t an Internet personality.

I definitely think some internet personalities are agents. Especially a chunk of the big people online.

Deleted member 1946 · 3/16/23

Jay said:
Another point is that it can only be effective if the operators within it truly lived by the code us the leader. It can’t be any of the fake half-assed “the code Is leader as long as the code agrees with what I want to do right now”.

100 percent true. We will have to have some strict standards in place.

Deleted member 1946 · 3/16/23

ZxBro said:
Maybe a "Black Tax" could fund it.....?

I think it could. But who would manage it? And what would be the consequences if it was misspent or stolen? We would have to decide how much the tax would be and what bank it would be kept in.

Deleted member 1946 · 3/16/23

Jay said:
Amen. That's why it needs to be ran like other shadow orgs have been ran. It has to be extremely difficult to cross the line from associate to member. It needs to be so rigid that if we trace you back and there is a name change, some type of concealed court case, or a case where everyone got football numbers but you...you're immediately no longer viable. We would need to interview you at your home, meet your friends and family and get to really know you. It would have to be very very thorough.

In addition, information needs to be compartmentalized so that no single person knows everything. Nothing could be communicated over electronic devices. Also there would need to be a legitimate commerce motion within the organization to fund it and give the members the ability to earn a living within the the org. It may seem like a lot but anything else will easily be penetrated.

Yep. I believe they have some kind of shadow organization that is helping with all these illegals coming in. This stuff is too organized. And there is only a certain amount of money and resources that are "on the record." I agree that one person does not need to know everything. I love that piece meal approach so everybody can do his or her job without being in on the whole plan. Shady characters have to be banned. I fully agree with paragraph one.

You wanna know something... your second paragraph is EXACTLY what I know has to be done. I have been thinking of having an organization like this for a while, and it has to be compartmentalized. This helps people to stay focused on their goal. But it prevents them from knowing what the other people are doing. There will have to be a funding mechanism. The power elite operates based on a circle within a circle within a circle kind of a mentality like a dart board game except there are a plethora of circles. This is why it is almost impossible to stop them. They put up all these walls to stop us. Compartmentalizing things will be our best way to get what we really need which is to make as much progress in the least amount of time with the smartest/most capable people in each subsection of the agenda hence why compartmentalization is important.

I stumbled upon this website last year. And when you read through it all the way to the end, it has a lot of very good information in it that may be useful. This tells us that others are thinking of having an intelligence agency/secret society as well.

How do I recruit members for a secret society?

Are you familiar with the Fermi paradox? It asks why the Earth hasn't already been (convincingly) visited by aliens - there are so many suns and planets older than the Earth, that aliens should be

worldbuilding.stackexchange.com

Deleted member 1946 · 3/16/23

Jay said:
Amen. That's why it needs to be ran like other shadow orgs have been ran. It has to be extremely difficult to cross the line from associate to member. It needs to be so rigid that if we trace you back and there is a name change, some type of concealed court case, or a case where everyone got football numbers but you...you're immediately no longer viable. We would need to interview you at your home, meet your friends and family and get to really know you. It would have to be very very thorough.

In addition, information needs to be compartmentalized so that no single person knows everything. Nothing could be communicated over electronic devices. Also there would need to be a legitimate commerce motion within the organization to fund it and give the members the ability to earn a living within the the org. It may seem like a lot but anything else will easily be penetrated.

One more thing... I definitely agree with you that nothing can be communicated over electronic devices. We would have to find an acceptable medium.

Deleted member 1946 · 3/16/23

ZxBro said:
The power to hold people accountable goes a long way to getting stuff done......that's one of the reasons we run into so many roadblocks because we can't hold those accountable for blocking our progress or killing one of us we'd be surprised how many people have been dealt with in this society for NOT going along with the program including our own Icons and even president's....who we know about but there's hundreds that we don't know about. We definitely need to have the power of accountability or people would just run to white law enforcement.

Yep. The crazy part is it is so easy to take a person out of here. All they have to do is get a good looking man/woman to do it. People often let their guard down when an attractive person comes around or wants to get with a person. This strategy has been used a high number of times. If they can take President Kenndy and others out, then they can us as well. We have to be careful but intelligent and not scared simultaneously.

Deleted member 1946 · 3/16/23

Jay said:
If I ever make an organization outside of 6ZEROS that has a more specific focus e.g. Intel Service it will be like a professional Death Row Records. Consequences would be dealt but it wouldn't be because some dumb idiot was drunk and decided to punish someone. It would be fair and there would be a committee that would examine the person's actions and then determine if punishment was necessary.

In addition, I would make everyone sign paperwork that states that they have no right to privacy while working with or within the organization. Everyone's background will be checked throughly and routinely and I mean thoroughly. There will never be a requisite number of good deeds that can put you above investigation or out of the eye of suspicion.

No family, no friends, all business.

All members need to sign a non-disclosure agreement with specific terms along with the consequences if the terms are broken.

Jay · 3/16/23

educatedman23 said:
All members need to sign a non-disclosure agreement with specific terms along with the consequences if the terms are broken.

Certain things you don't want on paper. You want people to sign the right for the organization to do any search at any given time. The consequences are part of the code that do not get documented.

Deleted member 1946 · 3/16/23

Jay said:
The crime for bringing in a tappable device into a meeting needs to be so detrimental that no one thinks of doing it.

Make them scared to death of doing so. Other groups have been having this policy. I know they have a no cell phone policy at these wild and crazy parties where the men/women are doing all kinds of freaky, unethical and illegal things. The cell phone has to be left at the door.

Deleted member 1946 · 3/16/23

The Honorable said:
Do you believe it is POSSIBLE that any Internet personality COULD be an agent?

Of course it is possible. Always. As a matter of fact, I think it is likely that the majority (but not all) of the big name folks are. That's logical to me. They knock down who they want to and prop up who they want to.

Deleted member 1946 · 3/16/23

BlackWarGod said:
Absolutely! I was listening to Dr Randy Short last night on Afro Elites live and he was goin in on how the NAACP have consistently took anti black stances and how we could dismantle them. Whether you agree with that or not, it brings up a big flaw in FBA culture in that we are too supportive of each other, we turned a blind eye to the NAACPs inaction for too long, Sharpton, now Crump. Garvey blindly trusted agent 800, King wanted war hadn’t the movement been co-opted towards pacifism and a heavily watered down civil rights bill.

Best believe someone in the reparations movement is co-opted, and no I don’t think it’s Tariq nor any one these internet personalities. But my thoughts on the diversion would hit close to heart for many and would be met rashly with shun. It’s not something I’m completely against but I’d rather dissect it in private with pragmatic individuals before delivering it publicly.

The NAACP has been funded by big racist White folks so we already know the organization is tainted. I am not saying there might not be individuals at the local level who care, but the organization as a whole has been infiltrated and controlled.

Deleted member 1946 · 3/16/23

Troy said:

You know the reason why it was said. A strong message has to be sent that nobody will sell the others out.

Deleted member 1946 · 3/16/23

Roparker71 said:
Good Idea... as long as the agency is extremely careful about screening the members...

We could use some of the screening process that big time organizations, secret societies and shadow groups (that we have heard of) use.

Deleted member 1946 · 3/16/23

Jay said:
Only if there was enough budget to have a private investigator following every single member and the discipline to meet and disclose business in a single room ONLY. In that room there will be no electronics allowed. If you bring one in we’ll have to take one of your fingers.

I like this. It will send a strong message that we are going to work together and not let 1 person sabotage all of our hard work. What group wants to spend so much time/effort/money doing the work for something then it gets destroyed in 1 second by 1 person?

Deleted member 1946 · 3/16/23

B1 Ski-Kid said:
A Black intelligence agency program is exactly what we need. I've bought a few books on various intelligence agencies and how they operate along with watching some documentaries on the topic as well as researching the techniques that they have used in many different operations. We need to start studying intelligence gathering. I purchased the book that Prof. BlackTruth recommended not too long ago called 'Gideon's Spies' by Gordon Thomas which is based on the origins and activities of The Mossad organisation. Establishing our own intelligence gathering groups would make a big change in how we move as a people, especially if we work together to always uphold logic over our emotions; then we can do anything.

I personally think the televised intelligence gathering shows is sanitized. It only shows what the powers that be want out. They won't tell us the deepest stuff so we can know the real truth.

Deleted member 1946 · 3/16/23

josiah starr said:
It's time we did this.

I wrote a whole novel about this very issue.

I wish we been had something like this.

Jay · 3/16/23

educatedman23 said:
Make them scared to death of doing so. Other groups have been having this policy. I know they have a no cell phone policy at these wild and crazy parties where the men/women are doing all kinds of freaky, unethical and illegal things. The cell phone has to be left at the door.

Facts. I have some thoughts but I won't put them here. There just has to be very harsh consequences for speaking the business anywhere that is not fully controlled by us. Also if it's going to work it cannot be conducted online or by electronic device. It has to be real boots on the ground with communication taking place by letters being driven between locations. The only time an electronic device can be used is in an emergency. The organization would have to be 100% dark.

ZxBro · 3/17/23

educatedman23 said:
Yep. The crazy part is it is so easy to take a person out of here. All they have to do is get a good looking man/woman to do it. People often let their guard down when an attractive person comes around or wants to get with a person. This strategy has been used a high number of times. If they can take President Kenndy and others out, then they can us as well. We have to be careful but intelligent and not scared simultaneously.

They can be taken down just like we can it's a human psychology thing and they haven't cornered the market on tactics. ......those same tactics are used against them all the time just know if you fail in your duty there are consequences you'll have to deal with.

ZxBro · 3/17/23

educatedman23 said:
I think it could. But who would manage it? And what would be the consequences if it was misspent or stolen? We would have to decide how much the tax would be and what bank it would be kept in.

Maybe not a tax but an insurance policy to insure fairness and justice in society but
The penalty for betrayal is a trip to the everglades where you'll never be heard from again. Everything is handled in house there are 21 black owned banks in the US pick one.

Deleted member 1946 · 3/17/23

Jay said:
Facts. I have some thoughts but I won't put them here. There just has to be very harsh consequences for speaking the business anywhere that is not fully controlled by us. Also if it's going to work it cannot be conducted online or by electronic device. It has to be real boots on the ground with communication taking place by letters being driven between locations. The only time an electronic device can be used is in an emergency. The organization would have to be 100% dark.

I one million percent agree. We have been at the bottom because we have not been willing to do the things we needed to do to 100 percent ensure nobody can harm us. We should have been had intelligence gathering agencies. We deserve the right to be prosperous and control the things we need to as well. I have some thoughts as well that I will not share here. I agree some punishment has to be given out for those who break the agreement. I normally would have recommended a Discord convo, but that would be technology communication as well. I'm for letters being driven between locations. Shadow organization.

Deleted member 1946 · 3/17/23

ZxBro said:
Maybe not a tax but an insurance policy to insure fairness and justice in society but
The penalty for betrayal is a trip to the everglades where you'll never be heard from again. Everything is handled in house there are 21 black owned banks in the US pick one.

I agree with you. That makes sense. I am with Hope Credit Union now. Black owned bank. I've only had 1 problem with them so far. The bank lost the copies of my business bank documents when I submitted them to have my accounts open. I've been with them for a little bit over a year now. Other than that..... no other problems.

Deleted member 1946 · 3/17/23

ZxBro said:
They can be taken down just like we can it's a human psychology thing and they haven't cornered the market on tactics. ......those same tactics are used against them all the time just know if you fail in your duty there are consequences you'll have to deal with.

I know they make mistakes from time to time. We need to capitalize on them.

Roparker71 · 3/17/23

educatedman23 said:
We could use some of the screening process that big time organizations, secret societies and shadow groups (that we have heard of) use.

Exactly

ZxBro · 3/17/23

MisterAlston said:
I hear you but I don't know if anything from our community could ever be that secret in this modern time. This government will always know something, but I hear ya.

Same reason people don't say "candyman" 5 times.....
Urban Legends......

ZxBro · 3/17/23

RCNAL said:
'Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

Who watches the Watchmen?

The biggest problem isn't going to be getting info. The biggest potential problem is what befalls ALL information gathering agencies, organizations. The group ends up getting info things it was not originally created for.
DuBois and Garvey.

It will start out doing what it was supposed to do, all agencies do but the people inside it will be tested. Okay, you exposed coons, agents and sellouts. Do you report Dr. Umar kicking with a 'conscious stripper'? Do you do deep dive on TBA, Tariq, Dr. Boyce? You find out something like they owe taxes, is having an affair, is gay, has an old domestic abuse charge? Many of the things that we see going back and forth these days that were exposed between influencers. Do we put that on blast? If Tariq is in charge of it, do we approve of him using it for info on Bey? Or the reverse?

The mission needs to be very clear. There needs to be some sort of oversight, transparency, or whatever. Generally speaking though, I like the idea and thought of something kinda similar. I'd like to have a black version of Vice or whatever and do a deep dive on certain things.

For example. Texas wanted to change history books to calling slaves 'foreign workers'. And we reposted articles and wrote 'Yo, that's f*cked up' and that was it. I want a black oriented site like Ebony, The Grio, The Root, whatever, to do a deeper dive. Which specific company made these books, who runs this company. Who specifically in the Texas Dept. of Education approved it or what group. Find out ALL the names and put them on the jumbotron in an article and fight to have them removed if they are in the government or that company blacklisted who wrote the books.

We're not dealing with online beefs and gossip We're dealing with nation building people who get in the way of that will be removed one way or the other. Having information on any individual gives you leverage against that individual in most cases especially when they are high profile if we find someone is out here scamming the people we pay them a visit and give them the choice to cease and desist or take a long vacation or simply retire them. We handle it in house not in front of mixed company.

GwynShivers · 3/17/23

ZxBro said:
We're not dealing with online beefs and gossip We're dealing with nation building people who get in the way of that will be removed one way or the other. Having information on any individual gives you leverage against that individual in most cases especially when they are high profile if we find someone is out here scamming the people we pay them a visit and give them the choice to cease and desist or take a long vacation or simply retire them. We handle it in house not in front of mixed company.

That's how it's supposed to be done! ✊🏽

Deleted member 1946 · 3/17/23

GwynShivers said:
That's how it's supposed to be done! ✊🏽

100 percent agree. People must take their opinions out of the mix.

Deleted member 1946 · 3/17/23

Here are two videos by Professor Black Truth that discusses intelligence gathering...

We Can't Spy If We Can't Buy --The Economics of Private Intelligence

Drakbluud · 3/19/23

ZxBro said:
A group dedicated to gathering information and dealing with off code behavior in the Black Community holding those accountable who would do harm to our community....
This is the next step. ✊🏿

Depends on how much they’re paying.

ZxBro · 3/20/23

Drakbluud said:
Depends on how much they’re paying.

It's not about oay it's about empowering our people but thank you for letting us know you have a price point that will move you into action 👍🏿✌🏿

InsaneOptimist · 4/11/23

Present & accounted for. As Professor Black Truth said, Gideon’s Spies is an obligatory read.

InsaneOptimist · 4/11/23

educatedman23 said:
Yep. So agree. And quite naturally, the system will eventually find out what we are doing and make threats to us.

We are already doing it.

B1 rebel 365 · 4/11/23

educatedman23 said:
You are not wrong. You are indeed right.

I think it's a sound and purposeful concept that I'd support but the vetting of potential candidates would be an enormous feat. You'd need a robust coonbuster digi-scanner 😂😂😂👍🏿 I'm claiming intellectual property rights first 👍🏿

Terrymist · 4/11/23

The idea of compartmentalising would be worth exploring. It could be broken down along the lines of the 9 areas i.e. an agency/department responsible for intelligence gathering regarding economics, an agency/department responsible for intelligence gathering regarding education etc. All of them would have similar powers/authority.

Deleted member 1946 · 6/29/23

GwynShivers said:
Sounds just like THE DROP SQUAD! ✊🏽

We need some sort of database so we can keep track of the relevant information. Obviously, we gotta have a way to keep off code people out.

Deleted member 1946 · 6/29/23

GwynShivers said:
This was happening way before the movie aired. Some if The Black Panthers were dealing with CAN's & setting them straight!

I love when we stand up for ourselves even if it against our own people.

Deleted member 1946 · 6/29/23

Troy said:

You would use a picture of Steve Harvey. Smh. I cannot stand this bootlick boule man. He should be tired of kissing these white folks rear ends.

Troy · 6/29/23

educatedman23 said:
You would use a picture of Steve Harvey. Smh. I cannot stand this bootlick boule man. He should be tired of kissing these white folks rear ends.

It’s just an expression that’s all.

Deleted member 1946 · 10/30/23

Troy said:
It’s just an expression that’s all.

ok

Deleted member 1946 · 10/30/23

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